Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'high- level': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'useless': 0.09; 'antoine': 0.16; 'irks': 0.16; 'loops': 0.16; 'programmers.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:which': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'apply.': 0.24; 'frameworks': 0.24; 'right.': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'programming.': 0.30; 'libraries': 0.31; 'trivial': 0.31; 'cases': 0.33; 'case,': 0.35; 'usual': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'more': 0.64; 'details': 0.65; 'careless': 0.84; 'piled': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Sturla Molden Subject: Re: which async framework? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:36:11 +0000 (UTC) References: <531E22DF.7030709@simplistix.co.uk> <1733040935416225908.878896sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <372076480416251284.821607sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 27-183-11.connect.netcom.no User-Agent: NewsTap/4.0.1 (iPad) X-: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1394570198 news.xs4all.nl 2943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52182 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:68238 Antoine Pitrou wrote: > This is the usual assumption that high-level libraries are made of useless > cruft piled up by careless programmers. It often is the case, particularly in network programming. But in this case the programmer is Guido, so it doesn't apply. :) > What irks me with your response is that you phrased it as though writing > a good event loop was an almost trivial thing to do, which it is not > once you start considering multiple use cases and constraints. Right. But in my programs an event loops does not have multiple usecases. I know all the details about my usecase. I am more concerned that multiple frameworks have their own event loops. Sturla