Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'read.': 0.03; 'from:addr:simplistix.co.uk': 0.09; 'from:name:chris withers': 0.09; 'message-id:@simplistix.co.uk': 0.09; 'received:server1.simplistix.co.uk': 0.09; 'received:simplistix.co.uk': 0.09; 'api': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; '(do': 0.16; 'blocking': 0.16; 'expecting': 0.16; 'non-blocking': 0.16; 'received:buzzkill.local': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'simpler,': 0.16; 'simplistix': 0.16; 'subject:which': 0.16; 'twisted': 0.16; 'url:simplistix': 0.16; 'wsgi': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'possible,': 0.19; 'thanks.': 0.20; 'code,': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'from:addr:chris': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'record': 0.27; 'to:2**1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'rest': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'database,': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'easier': 0.31; 'requests': 0.31; 'serve': 0.31; 'layer': 0.31; 'protocols': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'community': 0.33; 'guess': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'are,': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'networking': 0.64; 'pick': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'url:co': 0.67; 'response.': 0.68; 'hand': 0.80; 'flame': 0.84; 'faced': 0.91; 'why?': 0.91 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:53:10 +0000 From: Chris Withers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Reedy , python-list@python.org Subject: Re: which async framework? References: <531E22DF.7030709@simplistix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1394524394 news.xs4all.nl 2866 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56068 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:68203 On 10/03/2014 21:57, Terry Reedy wrote: >> I'd like to be able to serve the rest of the web api using a pyramid >> wsgi app if possible, and I'd like to be able to write the things that >> process requests in and validation out in a synchronous fashion, most >> likely spinning off a thread for each one. > > If you are writing 'standard' blocking, synchronous code, I am not sure > why you would use any of the above. The idea I have is to do all the networking async based on a declarative set of messages in and recording all messages out and then hand that set of messages off to a syncronous layer to make assertions, record into a database, etc. >> The protocols are all financial (do we really not have a pure-python FIX >> library?!) but none are likely to have existing python implementations. >> >> How should I pick between the options? What would people recommend and >> why? > > I know nothing of tornado. I personally would use asyncio over twisted > if I could because it is simpler, in the stdlib, has the option to write > 'untwisted' non-blocking code similar to blocking code, and the docs > easier for me to read. Thanks. Guess I was expecting more of a response. I suspect I'll just end up cross-posting to the various mailing lists, which I hope won't cause too much offence or kick off any flame wars. I'm faced with a difficult choice that I suspect many in our community are, just trying to find out how to make the best decision :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk