Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Terry Reedy Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Installing PyCharm on Windows Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:46:52 -0500 Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <32971984.pfH099DPo1@PointedEars.de> <2632865.Kq7QuO2XSa@PointedEars.de> <52076a04-4803-4cd5-b86a-65d8fdc81aea@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1VKHubociJAJq8ZoawKRDgZA92AkpcMJhJ0HzvSX5h2g== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'exercise': 0.03; 'essentially': 0.04; 'cpython': 0.05; 'python3': 0.05; 'svn': 0.05; 'subject:Windows': 0.09; 'compiler.': 0.09; 'invocation': 0.09; 'mercurial': 0.09; 'patch.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'itself.': 0.11; 'jan': 0.11; 'clone': 0.16; 'compiler,': 0.16; 'doubleclick': 0.16; 'freedom.': 0.16; 'installer,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'sudo': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'windows': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'do.': 0.22; 'doc': 0.22; 'needed.': 0.23; 'patch': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'install': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'command': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'equivalent': 0.27; 'system?': 0.29; 'windows,': 0.29; 'starts': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'work.': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'culture': 0.33; 'windows.': 0.33; 'file': 0.34; 'step': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:71': 0.36; 'visual': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'front': 0.38; 'no,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'build': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'forget': 0.60; 'free,': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'above,': 0.63; 'benefit': 0.66; 'as:': 0.79; '3.6': 0.84; 'abandon': 0.84; 'apt-get': 0.84; 'build-dep': 0.84; 'hunt': 0.84; 'url:cpython': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-185-227-36.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:100638 On 12/20/2015 4:54 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > Want to run CPython 3.6 on Windows? > Go hunt down a compiler, fiddle around with it, and see if > you can get everything to work. No, much easier. Essentially the same steps as below after following the instructions in the devguide to get the 2015 compiler. > Want to run CPython 3.6 on a Debian system? It's probably as simple as: > $ sudo apt-get build-dep python3 I think the equivalent step for windows come later. > $ sudo apt-get install mercurial OK, harder, hunt for Windows hg installer, or TortoiseHg if one likes GUIs front ends as I do. Also get svn. > $ hg clone https://hg.python.org/cpython Essentially same. > $ cd cpython cd cpython/pcbuild > $ make external.bat # for dependencies, which is where svn is needed. I forget command line invocation to build python itself. I use Explorer and doubleclick python?.sln and the file association starts Visual Studio.. There is a windows make.bat for doc building. This all works much better than a few years ago. Many thanks for final tweaks to Zach Ware. > Want to try out that interesting-looking patch off the bug tracker? > Same as the above, plus one little 'patch' command to apply the patch. Ditto for Windows. > I'm not going to force anyone to abandon Windows, but freedom does > benefit even people who don't directly exercise it, so I would still > encourage people to consider a culture of freedom. We have free-as-in-beer Python on Windows *because* people were free, in both senses, to develop it on *nix. -- Terry Jan Reedy