Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.04; 'tagged': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'feasible.': 0.09; "it'd": 0.09; 'machines.': 0.09; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'hardware.': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; '\xa0you': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.18; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'seeing': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.22; 'values': 0.23; 'gregory': 0.23; 'wonder': 0.24; "didn't": 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'probably': 0.30; 'yet': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'arrays': 0.31; 'ewing': 0.31; 'allow': 0.36; 'machine': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'hardware': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'help': 0.39; 'much.': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; '2011': 0.62; 'received:209.85.216.181': 0.68; 'received:mail- qy0-f181.google.com': 0.68; '12:47': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j3rqLrQZY9E4blIFv6F2G5Uc5ZKe7nT9Plu9/5LPGA0=; b=HLBSM2OyTWeBUzssOMO1020hTuU0UkFstG8kVHEdWPnUDCLgMQzqIrhHH+bgba/CY7 gD7YhqMbuSti/+u1rs7irXg3T5t77z3jblqXwlmEFuBYiOf/pjR8cN2aW5ptBEiQQu8N 5XusCuZ0mTOFLtYj+IpbF61FryDkV5I5LTmH8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XlQ2P3rImFcwOcX8ReKxAuwJrvzjVSj4x74iobRBGr7lB2dqHXtxVvMYJvlpeAyDwm 5ODjbJvZxhYOmzzICUXH9nQHOjh4aevOL98GK30ltED3McdTyV8ed/EqC9/RWhaStJ70 XjHSmSvS0N3mBzN/paQn/JSSPQYsQyY11Og6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8vtbclF7q4U1@mid.individual.net> References: <01bd055b-631d-45f0-90a7-229da4a9a362@t19g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <8vps7tF9vuU1@mid.individual.net> <4d97f125$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4d981eb5$0$10581$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <8vtbclF7q4U1@mid.individual.net> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:36:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Python CPU From: geremy condra To: Gregory Ewing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1301935009 news.xs4all.nl 41110 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:35629 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2575 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > John Nagle wrote: > >> =A0 =A0A tagged machine might make Python faster. =A0You could have >> unboxed ints and floats, yet still allow values of other types, >> with the hardware tagging helping with dispatch. =A0 But it probably >> wouldn't help all that much. =A0It didn't in the LISP machines. > > What might help more is having bytecodes that operate on > arrays of unboxed types -- numpy acceleration in hardware. I'd be interested in seeing the performance impact of this, although I wonder if it'd be feasible. Geremy Condra