Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'mrab': 0.05; 'assign': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; '"mark': 0.16; '>on': 0.16; '>to': 0.16; '[it': 0.16; 'guys,': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; 'motorola': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:security': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'separate': 0.22; 'url:home': 0.24; 'connected': 0.24; '(for': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'instruction': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; '(although': 0.31; 'with,': 0.31; 'compatible': 0.32; 'could': 0.34; 'created': 0.35; 'knows': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'ibm': 0.36; 'charset :us-ascii': 0.36; 'architecture': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'course.': 0.60; 'march': 0.61; 'here': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'college': 0.70; 'etc,': 0.84; 'interrupt': 0.84; 'xerox': 0.84; 'folk': 0.91; 'thing,': 0.91; 'received:108': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: How security holes happen Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 19:46:19 -0500 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <5adebc12-aa37-4139-82d8-563f46a27dc0@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-216-190.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1394239805 news.xs4all.nl 2917 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35915 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:68014 On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 18:39:01 -0800 (PST), "Mark H. Harris" declaimed the following: >On Thursday, March 6, 2014 8:13:02 PM UTC-6, MRAB wrote: >> >> The Z80's architecture and instruction set is a superset of that of the >> 8080; the 6502's architecture and instruction set isn't a superset of, >> or even compatible with, that of the 6800 (although it can use the same >> I/O, etc, chips). > >My point is not what, but who. Motorola engineers designed the 6502. A rose >is a rose by any other name. Its the people who count... if Motorola had listened >to those guys, who knows ... ? neither here nor there now, or course. And ex-IBM folk created the SDS Sigma line (later the XDS Sigma) [Scientific Data Systems -> Xerox Data Systems]. That doesn't make my college Sigma-6 an IBM-based product (for one thing, IBM had around 7 interrupt vectors, while the Sigma-6 had 224 or so [it could actually assign a separate interrupt to EACH connected terminal ) -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/