Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:error': 0.03; 'pointless': 0.09; 'subject:version': 0.09; 'variance': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'entry.': 0.16; 'excellent!': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'gardner,': 0.16; 'message- id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'press,': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'ticket': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'manual': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'copied': 0.24; 'finally,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'michael': 0.29; 'feature': 0.29; 'url:bugs': 0.29; '(this': 0.29; 'dropped': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'version': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'error.': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'received:211': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'chain': 0.60; 'wonderful': 0.60; 'introduced': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; "you'll": 0.62; 'article': 0.77; 'pardon': 0.84 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 21:06:31 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: why does "python --version" write to standard error? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=fbeUlSgF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:117 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=LcaDllckn3IA:10 a=8R1MjoEl5l0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=1OiG30FtAAAA:8 a=wV7XGZfGviadE1-mQvUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1394186794 news.xs4all.nl 2864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35347 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67986 On 07Mar2014 00:31, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <20140307075744.GA43732@cskk.homeip.net>, > Cameron Simpson wrote: > > This seems to write the python version to standard error. That seems > > very wrong. And at variance with the manual entry. > > Fixed in Python 3.4: > http://bugs.python.org/issue18338 Excellent! My thanks to Berker Peksag and Michael Dickens and the other ticket participants. -- Cameron Simpson The double cam chain setup on the 1980's DOHC CB750 was another one of Honda's pointless engineering breakthroughs. You know the cycle (if you'll pardon the pun :-), Wonderful New Feature is introduced with much fanfare, WNF is fawned over by the press, WNF is copied by the other three Japanese makers (this step is sometimes optional), and finally, WNF is quietly dropped by Honda. - Blaine Gardner,