Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.024 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'worse': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; '"but': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; 'argument,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'quite': 0.32; 'definition': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'making': 0.63; 'other.': 0.75; 'mistaken': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'contrary': 0.95 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 08:24:30 -0600 From: Tim Chase To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Reference In-Reply-To: <857g89f9f2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <53144e8d$0$2149$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <1d1dfa1b-b715-4d8f-9c12-f0d3dc1a22c9@googlegroups.com> <85ppm3httu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <20140303155112.46e34ff8@bigbox.christie.dr> <87siqy7whs.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53155c15$0$2923$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <164d209c-ba5e-449f-bc25-c27ebfb1fc0f@googlegroups.com> <5316b0dc$0$2923$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <857g89f9f2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1394029452 news.xs4all.nl 2961 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43462 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67850 On 2014-03-05 17:26, Ben Finney wrote: > > "Jython is an imitation of Cpython and does a good job but not > > quite as in the case of 'id'" > > Wrong. Jython and CPython both adhere to the guarantees of object > identity. Both implementations follow the language reference, and > neither implementation does object identity better or worse than the > other. I think he means "but not quite as [good in making my argument, despite the fact that the language definition runs contrary to my mistaken belief] as in [my interpretation of] 'id'" :-) -tkc