Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What exactly is "exact" (was Clean Singleton Docstrings) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 11:13:08 -0600 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <7046c74e-e5ea-4dde-8847-8c556756a563@googlegroups.com> <5789B601.9000604@stoneleaf.us> <9d2a0934-bf26-42a8-9bb2-e4e75b2d2ad3@googlegroups.com> <1468652038.1427719.667878897.460955C0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <578a027c$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <69d8d886-c18a-4c05-8bca-9a05afacd9a9@googlegroups.com> <578ca188$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1mbrm3p.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <877fcjrldc.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de ZqYEdRqleBRTyt18YAJRKAuiMnfGwO3/3ZuuJz4XbRiA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.127 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.75; '*S*': 0.00; '2016': 0.16; 'clock.': 0.16; 'measuring': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Singleton': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'constant': 0.22; 'latter': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'defined': 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'second,': 0.29; 'so-called': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'url:wiki': 0.30; 'seconds': 0.31; 'certain': 0.31; 'definition': 0.34; 'equal': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'needed': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'skip:9 10': 0.37; 'url:en': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'distance': 0.63; 'frequency': 0.66; 'fundamental': 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'jul': 0.72; 'category.': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'traveled': 0.84; 'apparent': 0.91; 'hand,': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=m/t1Q/kkiO4eg5JtvQcrof/tig7H/yFEl7AfoHvXDIg=; b=WEE8zGnHINgPEmysDitVtoRj1AtqALjZH4WQMb09kQyhL862vY5QpFd8FFccUHc895 soymmgrFr+LN+g6X9b/mnk9eN+fvrVDETEu8gENeZaUX+TcRcatHWVXI2MEhFcHHr19T UeStkfxR8/X3vVKBrRGhCURtBroQGU6H2p5i7D9peGd27xFpYeo7+C7oqYSz4YNuJ7az AgZRjQfyx2xyXnJ/Xt2ya3kHCReZ0egP89XqyPDyj73eDz0RDzNXiFaH8SI2Q+s/27rr uIRgVXbhhQxaXu1vU3YG9Kl+iIj/7HfBXrpznY4OVistHMH/22q6XYPlhh4mUJhNfapm B9OA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=m/t1Q/kkiO4eg5JtvQcrof/tig7H/yFEl7AfoHvXDIg=; b=CXbAVE2NmpJvOdSgw7INAceDrPBnfeo5xq86IKo3YIhpEZOhKzqpS2cWs7FS3hLKVV sCrtn5hVLnJl54dv1DaUIMiFGxARl7sTrDvk7dZVAvYuKLpEpvT7UwsxuNGHD2gaqTDd 0jClm3izu4oBxHm0QCKYGg28hxI885wMu/KiM85E9c/yrtTWT0/bSSfCI/T3reXG/G7r jdiP2ES6VttVqAwpiDa0aJlZGqx0epq7mpXQ/3yKl7oTlC4F0cIZ8c1zYw871XnhTjwV DZkP/56PNQSKMoEqMHTYKsDU+I8+mt78MKLIfK3sAXTXAQ4wf1toYRZEZgz5bsaG8/Qk maDg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLYYSo4iDDpwZ+hAsvOHvA2yYOeHwLw1flpKzw6YYQ0rR7Cuk/DNKVK2WuU9ORVynB9xvPIWo0Zto0vkA== X-Received: by 10.157.14.86 with SMTP id n22mr20454194otd.187.1468862028100; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877fcjrldc.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <7046c74e-e5ea-4dde-8847-8c556756a563@googlegroups.com> <5789B601.9000604@stoneleaf.us> <9d2a0934-bf26-42a8-9bb2-e4e75b2d2ad3@googlegroups.com> <1468652038.1427719.667878897.460955C0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <578a027c$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <69d8d886-c18a-4c05-8bca-9a05afacd9a9@googlegroups.com> <578ca188$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1mbrm3p.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <877fcjrldc.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111612 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Marko Rauhamaa : > >> Ian Kelly : >>> Off-topic, c being a fundamental constant is actually in the latter >>> category. Its *exact* value is 299792458 m/s. >>> >>> The length of the meter, on the other hand, is defined as the distance >>> traveled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 seconds and is subject to >>> the precision of measurements. >> >> Since both c and the second are exact magnitudes, so is the meter. >> >> The second [...] is quantitatively defined in terms of exactly >> 9,192,631,770 periods of a certain frequency of radiation from the >> caesium atom: a so-called atomic clock. >> > > Which would became immediately apparent if you programmed in Scheme. One > meter is equal to the wavelength of said magnitude times: Okay, so how is that wavelength defined? If you needed to mark a meter stick, and all you had was the definition of c and the second, how would you do it without measuring anything?