Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Can math.atan2 return INF? Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 09:39:06 -0400 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <57697e61$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1mp7m3g.picev12e77h4N%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <5769ec12$0$1610$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1n9kzk9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <1mp9e9m.s25gk61k28dhhN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <87inx1janx.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <576b5eb4$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <576b8576$0$1510$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <877fdgj7f4.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <576c1207$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1mpb97o.f86qm9eqx9uyN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <87shw3es70.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87y45spgsz.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5770968a$0$1589$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1467121146.2509341.650815521.254F4174@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de qZyLKdLqCEcOL1rVsWztkg5VkZu64qWwvQ2YP6PVuvwg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'objects,': 0.07; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'electric': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4.27': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:out3-smtp.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'properties': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'point': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'charge': 0.33; 'but': 0.36; '(and': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'goes': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'black': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; '26,': 0.72 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=KfIQxvhmZB/dncZFa2wZiMW68vk=; b=5QM2aR 1ishQ9KqLT2+KxDs2KyN0+Hl9lash2BurRYKfpft7N8Z2GCkpzA3MbHYkwgS0TU9 gIF0dyaLK7AlZAZ5JD96ZlCaudGhNfZc40M1E0B2uhgvzpVErGILOdmpI7hziZmL tNF7MKzmSQvBGBiKbT6HvHscd4YmGrP2/yuO4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=KfIQxvhmZB/dncZ Fa2wZiMW68vk=; b=RzO3fu6YYJHe4mPUl5rcl0UvSyUKq4+dqeozMJmHc86J10/ 6GEjnd+MaHRoWk/oCRitepI4d19Mq3m/NfGYgvoU9g9a+rlgC5DMwAytl0q80A60 Qj5rLcUrk9z1jFLohoT1NggCJR5WHPAVvo6SdSubnHhNlPdvtO/qu2aL2yHA= X-Sasl-Enc: k4uYS5uIlVclnekkkoShpiFOoiIpZpaVgIOd6Efg0uhp 1467121146 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-92c7b58a In-Reply-To: <5770968a$0$1589$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1467121146.2509341.650815521.254F4174@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <57697e61$0$1590$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1mp7m3g.picev12e77h4N%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <5769ec12$0$1610$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87d1n9kzk9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <1mp9e9m.s25gk61k28dhhN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <87inx1janx.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <576b5eb4$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <576b8576$0$1510$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <877fdgj7f4.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <576c1207$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1mpb97o.f86qm9eqx9uyN%pdorange@pas-de-pub-merci.mac.com> <87shw3es70.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87y45spgsz.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <5770968a$0$1589$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110695 On Sun, Jun 26, 2016, at 22:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > We have no way of seeing what goes on past the black hole's event > horizon, since light cannot escape. But we can still see *some* > properties of black holes, even through their event horizon: their > mass, any electric charge they may hold, their angular momentum. All objects, not just black holes, have those properties. The point here is that we are in fact observing those properties of an object that is not yet (and never will be) a black hole in our frame of reference.