Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:installation': 0.07; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'permissions': 0.09; 'variant': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'compute': 0.16; 'luck,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'sudo': 0.16; 'uploading': 0.16; 'for?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'ticket': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'machine': 0.22; 'cc:addr:gmail.com': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'cc:2**1': 0.23; 'skip': 0.24; 'login': 0.25; 'options': 0.25; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'faster,': 0.31; 'requesting': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'linux': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'info': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; '(e.g.,': 0.36; 'installing': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'architecture': 0.38; 'hat': 0.38; 'jason': 0.38; 'machines': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'though,': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'identify': 0.61; 'staff': 0.61; 'afraid': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'you:': 0.81; 'hassle': 0.84; '\xa0there': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vge1Y+ksH6jV50rYnBNC7md+eQ8nv+fh0X7z5/Tpu+w=; b=YGfVZ5ttQfeyt4c8UeIfS2hk4myZaqSFlLuIY0YHv4zZyfGgGpsPYaNV3IAmmexmyq igztj9be92vUwJq+eQoCGz7N0Ulxsvb3iSJN6rBHcT1zGHcYfjhj+tCmvGXABV1PAQHf +/9qrCFQGO00NpyVcld3HLU5V2CdeYMSKTFUzP0WdkG+QP8DZErupBJMUsK5snWnocx9 wRuAPXs16WzouaKjDXgsuA1gbMDjzSSsAayzLP45RodV1zz7ffM04RmdTDglv3uYzngj Y5ehCJxkyCMQPeXazh5NJs24I0pE938KlxdgQQqGiUht56Y8SCDWkZdezNsp1sk0xLSO l1ug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.5.180 with SMTP id t20mr61327igt.80.1366297529710; Thu, 18 Apr 2013 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1366122614066-5014440.post@n6.nabble.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:05:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Preparing sqlite, dl and tkinter for Python installation (no admin rights) From: Jason Swails To: James Jong Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f502548eacf7604daa3ee65 Cc: python list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 79 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366297537 news.xs4all.nl 2288 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49253 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43837 --e89a8f502548eacf7604daa3ee65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM, James Jong wrote: > Thanks so much Chris. This is part of a super computer and I am afraid I > don't have access to a machine with sudo permissions and similar > architecture & OS. > > Is there any way to active higher level of verbosity during the build > process to identify what is failing? Or anything specifically I should > watch for? > Most supercomputers I'm familiar with have some variant of Linux running (e.g., SUSE or Red Hat are quite common). Some of these machines only have barebone kernels on the compute nodes, though, and have a fully-fledged Linux OS only on the login nodes... This info is typically on the website for that supercomputer (if it has one), or any other available documentation. That said, there are other options available that are probably less of a hassle for you: 1) Skip tkinter unless you _know_ you really need it. Do you plan on doing X-forwarding when you log in? Can you run the GUI app on your local machine before uploading the files you need for computation? Running GUIs locally rather than over the network is typically much faster, anyway. 2) Submit a ticket to the supercomputer staff requesting that they install the software you need. There may be other 'gotchas' associated with installing certain software on supercomputers that the staff would know best. Good luck, Jason --e89a8f502548eacf7604daa3ee65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Thu, = Apr 18, 2013 at 10:37 AM, James Jong <ribonucleico@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
Thanks so much Chris. This = is part of a super computer and I am afraid I don't have access to a ma= chine with sudo permissions and similar architecture & OS.

Is there any way to active higher level of verbosity during = the build process to identify what is failing? Or anything specifically I s= hould watch for?

Most supercomputers I'm familiar with have some variant of Linux runnin= g (e.g., SUSE or Red Hat are quite common). =A0Some of these machines only = have barebone kernels on the compute nodes, though, and have a fully-fledge= d Linux OS only on the login nodes... This info is typically on the website= for that supercomputer (if it has one), or any other available documentati= on.

That said, there are other o= ptions available that are probably less of a hassle for you:

1) Skip t= kinter unless you _know_ you really need it. =A0Do you plan on doing X-forw= arding when you log in? =A0Can you run the GUI app on your local machine be= fore uploading the files you need for computation? =A0Running GUIs locally = rather than over the network is typically much faster, anyway.

2) Submit a ticket to the su= percomputer staff requesting that they install the software you need. =A0Th= ere may be other 'gotchas' associated with installing certain softw= are on supercomputers that the staff would know best.

Good luck,
Jason
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