Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'empty,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'subject:security': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'simpler': 0.24; 'file.': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'done,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'that,': 0.38; 'either': 0.39; 'truly': 0.60; 'no.': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'reached': 0.63; 'mar': 0.68; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=VfVlHdrcuwEsW4X6v1suKGcsiHlWn8PPOm/QHJnv4Lw=; b=08upn6WR4wvx6ZhQqjfO7G1pgw7w5NKOT0TxvXAfg7Vg0BhHhzpl3fAMy8DszzYLOO idf5/dcwJHmxozoQ3zX3tfTyioxBoT2WiEXJhnGm86A3tcW1Dg2RJnFjQ2awCduclzNt dG7kbGfd2N0M7fQEK081JA1/mDCjAZV/XOF44PV8ZLB+Xy41fe27DLvV4AlyYHmby1MA qrM50bsvCK2LquZg5g+xkILZCAEzZsWXdXBhvLjy28389ABicE+MU64TIpkLmMY2rei5 JJwlzao+besEo0byomZx68Sm3UjiCpDccl45KD/PesYwcO8OMIOF+MoL/EXwsg0F2ysQ s7lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.181.70 with SMTP id du6mr2468144pac.23.1393973840185; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 14:57:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87d2i1mvg7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <20140303221926.GA57537@cskk.homeip.net> <99ca7396-bcb8-49f9-b486-56ae88aa00e5@googlegroups.com> <87d2i1mvg7.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:57:20 +1100 Subject: Re: How security holes happen From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393973842 news.xs4all.nl 2975 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44024 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67747 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Lisp is conceptually simpler than Python, but awe-inspiring. One day, it > will overtake Python, I believe. > > The final Nirvana is reached with... No no no. The final Nirvana is achieved when you no longer write text at all, but simply edit an empty file. When you are done, the file is still empty, and you have truly reached nirvana. Either that, or you code in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language) ... ChrisA