Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What exactly is "exact" (was Clean Singleton Docstrings) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:25:25 -0600 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <7046c74e-e5ea-4dde-8847-8c556756a563@googlegroups.com> <5789B601.9000604@stoneleaf.us> <9d2a0934-bf26-42a8-9bb2-e4e75b2d2ad3@googlegroups.com> <1468652038.1427719.667878897.460955C0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <578a027c$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <69d8d886-c18a-4c05-8bca-9a05afacd9a9@googlegroups.com> <578ca188$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de ONlCPU4ImH9lg8Bh1Hf66gFJss+pd7oYBZRUpYl4RKhA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.086 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; 'semantics': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Singleton': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'so.': 0.22; 'constant': 0.22; 'latter': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'defined': 0.23; '(or': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'seconds': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'mass': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'skip:e 20': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'distance': 0.63; 'fundamental': 0.66; 'subject': 0.70; 'jul': 0.72; 'category.': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'traveled': 0.84; 'hand,': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mj3TB4sAHyql6Vvs4/+ACbY+02rlNOxj/swrdd8aAT0=; b=oHdmUG66G3BARV8WL/+tofIUOQQc56d1YaLANLIhk5ca5GrNxYWVwoVtaoabHWQILM 8QeC9Dmyzao6WbGG4kLDllIHN82jF9biDqMiqHNOkHf/i+nKwJnj3fnz+i7buL1tDxOE cWPUgUByIuSRwB8U8J4f71mFdx34Mca7Zdsu63YhfzYvWDni2ky1Ogaj0hqFoCMpUfB6 FsjN9Icvrj2uLm5jScIOWfVhQ7s6erRo+PlOjXxznNoXTP+1LjRxjgFiiVCgTPYDtj4u cJIDhJJzAWNgZ7KR4kpWJh+ZC7ltgWSc5ofExHlXdumt1UhTaR55kiFVbUgxGPZ2zu0M l5bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mj3TB4sAHyql6Vvs4/+ACbY+02rlNOxj/swrdd8aAT0=; b=ScZWpqjFmEIMLVX2FhPpQErdKdXI/rFhbXFOJKSV8H4TOljBK+PfIK0Wa+Ky1VExIV wdDHXy9utL3hxck/xurpVPM16dX3FVFuzoT5W7XFdCMq79/BbsF0CXQUYPPVirBMBLR8 +Cx21vuTRNDTkxdAu27jIoxUpFR2Dge/F+aGhLlPV1moFTuhazrNFOsiY45E5xiGGacA 4BpLUAYxxFuySp1cRTj1wBWFERKbKbT+DcNJ72YSfOuOBrVuMBDQnX+utsbJOUC3Wy4n RCA74AN2nyMFcDg0cc/EG8pEk/YwFx7yqkxrlvegjy/wCbje7yMdwlIwZMZVtH/3rtXZ 9PEg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLV7Z/Y8gMFbZ+a6JsLsir1RlbTxvyRoNKTiTZf4JtTQQ61E12F9iI1TfrNb3Y92+ojiPH7XMaqqkOj8g== X-Received: by 10.157.54.143 with SMTP id h15mr21137824otc.152.1468855564523; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 08:26:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <578ca188$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <7046c74e-e5ea-4dde-8847-8c556756a563@googlegroups.com> <5789B601.9000604@stoneleaf.us> <9d2a0934-bf26-42a8-9bb2-e4e75b2d2ad3@googlegroups.com> <1468652038.1427719.667878897.460955C0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <578a027c$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <69d8d886-c18a-4c05-8bca-9a05afacd9a9@googlegroups.com> <578ca188$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111609 On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:29 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Monday 18 July 2016 14:16, Rustom Mody wrote: >> In short one could think of inexact and exact =E2=80=94 in scheme's inte= nded >> semantics =E2=80=94 as better called scientific (or science-ic) and math= ematic >> numbers. > > I don't think so. "Science" uses both experimentally-derived numbers (e.g= . G, > c, the mass of the electron) and numbers known exactly (=E2=88=9A2, e, = =CF=80). Off-topic, c being a fundamental constant is actually in the latter category. Its *exact* value is 299792458 m/s. The length of the meter, on the other hand, is defined as the distance traveled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 seconds and is subject to the precision of measurements.