Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.111 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.01; 'argument': 0.05; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; '1:09': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'itself,': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'silly': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'curious': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'question,': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'called': 0.40; 'first': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'wall': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; 'anything.': 0.68; 'designers': 0.74; 'believe,': 0.84; 'subject:self': 0.84; 'territory.': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=f3w+4Z9m4ODPt6MZQ0CjJZRHDXC/gaorz+NvbDlvKsI=; b=zgXuR3c8GYwJuNkf+YEXcEwH/4s2dJ5oWZlhzpmZRviNrTrFY0O9XAfP+ttnpV3hBw pC5xk2sZghesq8APjOLCc434a5nmBjWWV8/mrhy+VNEqIPHe9OngeL1DmK64CmJVIRRN COhysBse/65EZ8IvQQ52QDLiRl/4W3BUeCfTtdb8StGAORNsbFVyCX0dw3aEXtY3ASg4 mqYbF0E1tqd2cXfwT0lwj4OhmwhKqCD0OXNc17NcQyk8YcU/iDYDuK9vRkr/j99cjjIl VlA6pT3rjjkln2OdS7FJj5SgGkailbajWAEbcWP9UrUkHoSYW+DD4dzx3nHGGkRQA0Ix piug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.118.71 with SMTP id kk7mr3121865pab.14.1393899204073; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:13:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7edah9989mdjb9mrnrsh5067np0ihv1jml@4ax.com> References: <7edah9989mdjb9mrnrsh5067np0ihv1jml@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:13:24 +1100 Subject: Re: Origin of 'self' From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393899213 news.xs4all.nl 2854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59746 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67626 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber w= rote: > On Sun, 2 Mar 2014 22:16:31 -0800 (PST), Westley Mart=C3=ADnez > declaimed the following: > >>I understand that in an object method the first argument in the object it= self, called self. However, it doesn't have to be called self, and can be = called anything. So my question is why is it called self and not this like= from C++ and Java. It's kind of a silly question, but one that I'm curiou= s about nevertheless. >> > > It didn't want to be egotistical (as I recall, M$ VB uses "me") ALL language designers are egotistical. Goes with the territory. (Larry Wall said that, I believe, regarding Perl.) ChrisA