Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'run-time': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'charles': 0.16; 'down...': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subject:security': 0.16; 'exception': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'written': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'java': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'doing': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'obvious': 0.74; 'low': 0.83; '9:19': 0.84; "else's": 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'pike': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: How security holes happen Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 22:50:24 +0000 References: <20140303221926.GA57537@cskk.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-5-199.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140302-1, 02/03/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393887042 news.xs4all.nl 2900 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41797 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67611 On 03/03/2014 22:25, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> On 03Mar2014 09:17, Neal Becker wrote: >>> Charles R Harris Wrote in message: >>>> >>> >>> Imo the lesson here is never write in low level c. Use modern >>> languages with well designed exception handling. >> >> What, and rely on someone else's low level C? > > Someone needs to port Python to LISP. > > And then write a LISP interpreter in JavaScript. > > And an ECMAScript engine in Pike. > > And a Pike interpreter in Java. > > And a Java run-time written in ActionScript. > > It's turtles all the way down... > > ChrisA > Or write every language in Applescript which has 42 not very obvious ways of doing each and everything. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com