Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'run- time': 0.05; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; 'charles': 0.16; 'down...': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'java.': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subject:security': 0.16; 'exception': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'written': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'java': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'languages': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'level': 0.37; 'here': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; 'low': 0.83; '9:19': 0.84; "else's": 0.84; 'pike': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=KCVg6gi3Qm4q7HPMDCBWW3tS+Nij9PS1oikw8ajIcy4=; b=kJ21lw0ZX7b9QjPgCw3n6BfGUCTzyedf0X18F1MYM7TmLF/8CA6EsJm2tcZoA+NSr2 p9x3ZSI4dpeODrb9Tii3CJ3d43HOUmBsm9ne+ioNH6FTmMZE0b3jvVECWM9L3NcyWL7F IkhD3omk2eE8ertqAuYJuUE8nzoJxfJ5X7wCn3SvN82mbw1egjuGgSCbXhCCjwgNbo+B w9p43flVZcGbFY3H6mZlTgOZd+UaONCwOEGqjQehEcf0R1MthCrTkNETbpCgNnk88Pv4 TomUBA0zN2zyBQIuUQNHl3abtSDQKGGfoMdWrHkz2FUWpq1l4t08UYoG0jDmdn7I4Flh cFeA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.129.133 with SMTP id nw5mr2115510pab.98.1393885549231; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:25:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140303221926.GA57537@cskk.homeip.net> References: <20140303221926.GA57537@cskk.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:25:49 +1100 Subject: Re: How security holes happen From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393886043 news.xs4all.nl 2841 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49479 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67606 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 03Mar2014 09:17, Neal Becker wrote: >> Charles R Harris Wrote in message: >> > >> >> Imo the lesson here is never write in low level c. Use modern >> languages with well designed exception handling. > > What, and rely on someone else's low level C? Someone needs to port Python to LISP. And then write a LISP interpreter in JavaScript. And an ECMAScript engine in Pike. And a Pike interpreter in Java. And a Java run-time written in ActionScript. It's turtles all the way down... ChrisA