Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '(especially': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'indeed,': 0.09; 'plone,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'dec': 0.15; 'folks': 0.15; 'clark': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'alex': 0.17; 'libraries': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'exposed': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'framework': 0.30; 'getting': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; '12,': 0.36; 'skip:z 10': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'perform': 0.38; 'positive': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'hearing': 0.61; 'offer,': 0.62; 'received:96': 0.62; 'worth': 0.63; 'times': 0.63; 'experience.': 0.65; 'said:': 0.65; 'tasks.': 0.65; 'subject:The': 0.71; 'way)': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Alex Clark Subject: Re: The Zen of Zope, by Alex Clark Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:42:25 -0500 Organization: ACLARK.NET, LLC References: <50c563e0$0$21722$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <1f1ef8e3-5838-48cd-ad8e-8748a20e5e7a@q5g2000pbk.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 96.241.16.24 User-Agent: Unison/2.1.10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1355276560 news.xs4all.nl 6930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49666 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34671 On 2012-12-12 00:36:29 +0000, alex23 said: > On Dec 12, 7:23 am, Alex Clark wrote: >> TL;DR: Zope has a lot to offer, and there are times when you may need >> its libraries to perform complex tasks. > > I always avoided Zope as I kept hearing "there's the Python way and > then there's the Zope way", however, all that did is lead me to avoid > a framework representing almost 15 years worth of experience. Having > now been exposed to it through Plone, I'm finding a lot there to like, > like zope.interface. Indeed, and getting folks to discuss Zope (especially in a positive way) is part of my goal. -- Alex Clark · https://www.gittip.com/aclark4life/