Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'mouse': 0.07; 'nicely': 0.07; 'plenty': 0.07; 'imho.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; '"mark': 0.16; 'all?': 0.16; 'configuring': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'message- id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'pane': 0.16; 'received:211.29': 0.16; 'received:211.29.132': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'received:syd.optusnet.com.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'slight': 0.16; 'tuning': 0.16; 'usually.': 0.16; 'apps': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'slightly': 0.19; 'split': 0.19; 'admin': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'certainly': 0.24; 'features,': 0.24; 'url:02': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'source': 0.25; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'needed.': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'app.': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; 'default,': 0.31; 'follows': 0.31; 'horizontal': 0.31; 'vertical': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'entirely': 0.33; 'screen': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'height': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'remote': 0.38; 'machines': 0.38; 'received:211': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'environment.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'color': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; "you'll": 0.62; 'real': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'url:png': 0.68; 'transparent': 0.68; 'cut': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'crummy': 0.84; 'fonts': 0.84; 'route': 0.84; 'good,': 0.91; 'subject:Development': 0.95; 'serious': 0.97 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 11:55:51 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Mac vs. Linux for Python Development MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: X-Optus-CM-Score: 0 X-Optus-CM-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=bpB1Wiqi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:117 a=YuQlxtEQCowy2cfE5kc7TA==:17 a=ZtCCktOnAAAA:8 a=PO7r1zJSAAAA:8 a=LcaDllckn3IA:10 a=ZFpIamMfX_cA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=vrnE16BAAAAA:8 a=N54-gffFAAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=n6KM2QzuAAAA:8 a=D8ThibNQAAAA:20 a=yDJJN4rjLSrPPLEsjA8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nAPXUAfsBmEA:10 a=Bm6qEjDGwGEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 61 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1393721762 news.xs4all.nl 2835 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41281 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:67397 On 01Mar2014 15:07, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <4e741358-ce12-40ac-97b8-3bbbf2d6ddca@googlegroups.com>, > "Mark H. Harris" wrote: > > [...] > > If you want to use terminals on OSX you'll want to install Quartz and run > > the terminal on the emulated X environment. It works better for python IMHO. > > The built-in terminal for OSX need serious configuring (which is possible) > > because its color is bad, and its tiny by default, with a crummy font. All of > > that can be changed, but it just works better to use XQuartz. > > That certainly is a matter of preference. There are plenty of drawbacks > to using X11-based apps on OS X. I wouldn't advise new users to OS X to > go that route unless they were really set on using X11 entirely and, in > that case, why use OS X at all? If you don't like Apple's built-in > Terminal.app, another option is to use iTerm 2, an open source native > alternative that has many more features. > > http://www.iterm2.com/ > > It's also available through MacPorts. > I also recommend iTerm2. It is really good, far better than OSX's Terminal app. I run it full screen and split it into panes, typically 3 or 4 vertical and then as many horizontal as required (ssh to multiple hosts); I edit in a full height pane usually. To reiterate from a post to mutt-users: I like iTerm2 for the following reasons: - focus follows mouse - selecting text can be set to set the cut buffer immediately, no %C needed. Like X11. - horizontal and vertical pane tiling I've bound shift-%V to open a new vertical pane (splits the current pane vertically) and shift-%T to open a new horizontal pane (splits the current pane horizontally). This is outstandingly useful for working in multiple shells. I do a lot of remote admin and opening shells on a bunch of machines nicely arranged for coordinated work is very pleasing. And of course I've spent some time tuning fonts and colours, and made things slightly transparent with a slight brightening for the currently focussed pane. iTerm2 has lots of features, but the ones above are the real winners for me. Here's a screenshot of this message: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zvit1cwuoac80h/iterm2-fullscreen-2014-03-02-11.49.02.png Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson TeX: When you pronounce it correctly to your computer, the terminal may become slightly moist. - D. E. Knuth.