Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!rt.uk.eu.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.nosignal.org!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'attribute': 0.05; 'attributes': 0.07; 'dict': 0.09; 'meaningful': 0.09; 'subclasses': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; '(also': 0.16; 'compromise': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'ian.': 0.16; 'keys.': 0.16; 'lowercase': 0.16; 'message- id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174': 0.16; 'received:202.125.174.133': 0.16; 'received:boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:edu.au': 0.16; 'received:harvey.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'received:homeip.net': 0.16; 'received:nsw.edu.au': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'subclassing': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'trash': 0.16; 'uppercase': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'mostly': 0.20; 'keys': 0.22; 'names.': 0.22; 'cheers,': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'work.': 0.23; 'elements': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'rest': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; 'dictionary': 0.29; 'class': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'december': 0.32; 'running': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'anyone': 0.33; '(with': 0.33; 'fail': 0.35; 'mapping': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:au': 0.36; 'method': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'think': 0.40; 'decision': 0.60; 'content- disposition:inline': 0.60; 'map': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'land': 0.62; 'effective': 0.63; 'special': 0.73; "'now'": 0.84; 'easier,': 0.84; 'ocean': 0.84 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:31:22 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: Dave Cinege Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Thesaurus - a recursive dictionary subclass using attributes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201212111557.24851.dave@linkscape.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: <201212111557.24851.dave@linkscape.net> Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1355265569 news.xs4all.nl 6876 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51089 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34657 On 11Dec2012 15:57, Dave Cinege wrote: | On Tuesday 11 December 2012 01:41:38 Ian Kelly wrote: | > running into bugs like this: | > >>> thes = Thesaurus() | > >>> thes.update = 'now' | > >>> thes.update | > | > | | I've noticed this but it's mostly pointless, as meaningful code does work. | (Also you stepped on the existing 'update()' dictionary method.) I think that was a deliberate choice of name by Ian. I've got a class like Thesaurus that subclasses dict and maps attributes to dictionary elements (with a few special purpose tweaks I could go into if anyone cares). I made a deliberate decision to only map UPPERCASE attributes to dict keys to avoid exactly the kind of conflict above, because: thes.update = 'now' must either trash the dict.update method _or_ fail to present .update as 'now'. Both have their downsides. So at the cost of shoutier but still effective code I accepted only .UPPERCASE attribute names as mapping to keys. This compromise also makes subclassing much easier, because the subclasser is free to use conventional lowercase attribute names. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson Thousands at his bidding speed, And post o'er land and ocean without rest - Milton