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From: Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:58:47 -0600
Subject: Re: Implicit initialization is EXCELLENT
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt
<ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> wrote:
>>> Just guessing, is it legacy, C-with-classes code rather than C++ code
>>> perhaps? Haven't looked at wx for a while. Such code typically lacks
>>> understanding of exceptions, which are the only way to signal failure
>>> from e.g. constructors.
>>
>> No, wx is C++ through and through.
>
> No namespaces. No templates but macros. No exceptions. No C++.
>
> Sorry, I beg to differ. BTW, they say themselves that they tolerate but not
> use exceptions, so they actually need two-stage construction if construction
> can fail, and for exactly the guessed legacy reasons.

Ah, I think I misunderstood your meaning.  By "C-with-classes" I
thought you were referring to the practice of OOP in C, and my
response was to the effect that building wx requires a C++ compiler,
not just a C compiler.