Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news.litech.org!news.nosignal.org!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.044 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'unexpected': 0.09; 'dec': 0.15; 'clark': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; "zope's": 0.16; 'zope,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'alex': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'libraries': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'expect': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'more,': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'perform': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'offer,': 0.62; 'received:96': 0.62; 'provide': 0.62; 'times': 0.63; 'become': 0.65; 'said:': 0.65; 'tasks.': 0.65; 'subject:The': 0.71; 'complexity': 0.84; 'strengths': 0.84; 'zen': 0.84; 'relief': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Alex Clark Subject: Re: The Zen of Zope, by Alex Clark Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:23:14 -0500 Organization: ACLARK.NET, LLC References: <50c563e0$0$21722$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 96.241.16.37 User-Agent: Unison/2.1.10 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1355261016 news.xs4all.nl 6852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54324 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:34648 On 2012-12-11 21:01:03 +0000, Gregory Ewing said: > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 20:13:43 -0500, Alex Clark wrote: > > >>> The Zen of Zope, by Alex Clark >> >> I expect that I would find that hilarious if I knew anything about Zope :) > > It's probably a good thing I don't know much about Zope, > because I'm already finding it hilarious. If I knew more, > the hilarity level might become physically dangerous. Well, the point is two-fold: - Provide comic relief for those who have encountered unexpected complexity in Zope. - Showcase Zope's strengths for those who may be unfamiliar with it. TL;DR: Zope has a lot to offer, and there are times when you may need its libraries to perform complex tasks. -- Alex Clark · https://www.gittip.com/aclark4life/