Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.028 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'lines.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.08; 'length.': 0.09; 'readable': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'asm': 0.16; 'deleted:': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'jumping': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'lines,': 0.18; 'maybe': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; '+0100,': 0.23; '(in': 0.26; 'code.': 0.26; 'code': 0.26; 'position.': 0.28; 'pass': 0.29; 'interpret': 0.29; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.31; 'actually': 0.31; "i've": 0.32; 'does': 0.32; "can't": 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.34; 'normally': 0.34; 'steven': 0.34; 'view,': 0.34; 'all.': 0.34; 'someone': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'post': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; "he's": 0.37; 'received:192': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'should': 0.38; 'unless': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'talking': 0.62; 'reply': 0.64; 'bothered': 0.68; 'eyes': 0.68; 'yourself': 0.69; 'claims': 0.80; 'proportional': 0.84; 'readability': 0.84; 'realm': 0.84; 'examining': 0.91 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:39:21 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python is readable References: <4f612b19$0$1379$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <8e72d74f-c844-4de3-8a37-f6b1fdc2291f@y27g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> <50e9ceec-40f1-4ead-b2b6-87328b30d084@ow8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <4f61c828$0$1390$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61d728$0$1375$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61fd0a$0$1389$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f620837$0$1382$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f627c25$0$1381$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f62b9be$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4f632da5$0$1375$4fafbaef@reader1.news.tin.it> <4f636ed5$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <4f636ed5$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1331941180 news.xs4all.nl 6971 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42766 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:21787 On 03/16/2012 10:48 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:10:12 +0100, Kiuhnm wrote: > >> Maybe we should define *exactly* what readability is (in less then 500 >> lines, if possible). > > If you can't be bothered to read my post before replying, save yourself > some more time and don't bother to reply at all. > > I quote from the part of the my post you deleted: > > When people talk about readability, they normally mean to > ask how much mental effort is needed to interpret the > meaning of the text, not how much time does it take to > pass your eyes over the characters. In other words they > are actually talking about comprehensibility. > > > Unless I've made a mistake counting, that's less than 500 lines. > > >> According to your view, ASM code is more readable than Python code. It's >> just that there's more to read in ASM. > > What a ridiculous misrepresentation of my position. Readability is not > proportional to length. For someone who claims he's merely examining the language and seeking to learn about it, Kiuhnm is jumping awfully quickly into the realm of trolling.