Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'algorithm': 0.03; '21,': 0.07; 'filename': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'file,': 0.15; 'producing': 0.15; '>>': 0.16; 'attributes.': 0.16; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; "file's": 0.16; 'identifiable': 0.16; 'task.': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; '>': 0.23; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'hash': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'no,': 0.29; 'asking': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.32; 'file': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'done': 0.34; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'beyond': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'identify': 0.61; 'tracking': 0.61; 'subject: & ': 0.67; '8bit%:100': 0.70; '8bit%:92': 0.70; 'power': 0.74; '(still': 0.84; '2013': 0.84; 'computers.': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'seriously,': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=tUVoVEOkcP0b+jwuIIB/neoxwlTuTn8QDbK5FSEjsZY=; b=Satq8D6NTOsGg5uWNHvPHrWUgFpVZFWrWOiQojsLMwoiFG7Aj6+2we+3yHnlifsx7w JXWRhFWlWyuvzT3QyFgvmUck/Xo9HFMaOpL5fIFcs+7Yw6GTdJ5l6qEip0d4AfChpRRS TcvdddB7eW4UxY4mL573e5+7Vjbogjuicqg5kG5FcahcdbopZBVOkwXNIj6CPQh4ewbJ uvDds9vXI6VQjpjh3Buza2ZAf4A2XQ72A/wsfLgxGhPoVRyjMcN1WzlaI+D/AGJoIRfF HX2nwbN9yKpecYWJxxraXX6ldkgBTYY0wPykaW+OomD/+hXK/xupv27Oc6TF9lzj/Mq4 SdjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.2.69 with SMTP id nt5mr19216697vcb.68.1358772474190; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 04:47:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8deb6f5d-ff10-4b36-bdd6-36f9eed58e1e@googlegroups.com> <5dd4babd-716d-4542-ad36-e6a841b73ec3@googlegroups.com> <03581a24-9330-4019-bde9-61a607000d3d@googlegroups.com> <187d77e0-e948-46bf-acc5-668c446cf3aa@googlegroups.com> <239abe33-fa5b-41a9-ae80-5260b9b1bd9c@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:47:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Uniquely identifying each & every html template From: Joel Goldstick Cc: Python List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba211fbfa79b8404d3cbde02 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 102 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1358772477 news.xs4all.nl 6954 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34813 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:37194 --90e6ba211fbfa79b8404d3cbde02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is trolling Ferrous. you are a troll. Go away On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 21 January 2013 12:06, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > > =CE=A4=CE=B7 =CE=94=CE=B5=CF=85=CF=84=CE=AD=CF=81=CE=B1, 21 =CE=99=CE= =B1=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=B1=CF=81=CE=AF=CE=BF=CF=85 2013 11:31:24 =CF=80.= =CE=BC. UTC+2, =CE=BF =CF=87=CF=81=CE=AE=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B7=CF=82 Chris > Angelico =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: > >> > >> Seriously, you're asking for something that's beyond the power of > >> humans or computers. You want to identify that something's the same > >> file, without tracking the change or having any identifiable tag. > >> > >> That's a fundamentally impossible task. > > > > No, it is difficult but not impossible. > > It just cannot be done by tagging the file by: > > > > 1. filename > > 2. filepath > > 3. hash (math algorithm producing a string based on the file's contents= ) > > > > We need another way to identify the file WITHOUT using the above > attributes. > > This is a very old problem (still unsolved I believe): > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus > > > Oscar > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > --=20 Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com --90e6ba211fbfa79b8404d3cbde02 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is trolling Ferrous.=C2=A0 you are a troll.=C2=A0 Go = away


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjami= n@gmail.com> wrote:
On 21 January 2013 12:06, = Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gma= il.com> wrote:
> =CE=A4=CE=B7 =CE=94=CE=B5=CF=85=CF=84=CE=AD=CF=81=CE=B1, 21 =CE=99=CE= =B1=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=B1=CF=81=CE=AF=CE=BF=CF=85 2013 11:31:24 =CF=80.= =CE=BC. UTC+2, =CE=BF =CF=87=CF=81=CE=AE=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B7=CF=82 Chris Ange= lico =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5:
>>
>> Seriously, you're asking for something= that's beyond the power of
>> humans or computers. You want to identify that something's the= same
>> file, without tracking the change or having any identifiable tag.<= br> >>
>> That's a fundamentally impossible task.
>
> No, it is difficult but not impossible.
> It just cannot be done by tagging the file by:
>
> 1. filename
> 2. filepath
> 3. hash (math algorithm producing a string based on the file's con= tents)
>
> We need another way to identify the file WITHOUT using the above attri= butes.

This is a very old problem (still unsolved I believe):
= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus


Oscar
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