Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Gerald Britton Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Learning Descriptors Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:33:18 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de WoZNE3qXzSY7eVXhsIYmbA/ajb1n/qnvgapOAc6vbxxg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'classes,': 0.05; 'descriptor': 0.09; 'key)': 0.09; 'obj,': 0.09; 'def': 0.13; '>>>': 0.15; '42.': 0.16; 'key):': 0.16; 'read:': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'self)': 0.16; 'subject:Learning': 0.16; 'case.': 0.18; 'copied': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'function,': 0.22; 'this:': 0.23; "doesn't": 0.26; 'skip:_ 20': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; 'looks': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'class': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'usually': 0.33; "skip:' 20": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'so,': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'expected': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'really': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.37; 'missing': 0.37; 'skip:o 20': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'test': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'url:3': 0.60; 'today,': 0.62; 'here': 0.66; 'answer:': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dBCNh+BfqTlSJ+EiHnTLdf9Z2LJE3TPIqMHz0n1OaLs=; b=al0wqhI/299QvIuxUi01JIk+VMNwJgpnRoeOdiHnO2rCXTNZXmzHsKbvJt3G5Nz1WJ 5+cy1u+K4rDKEbZqR4aePOTXEGTa6kf7eHUuqwqhVGXOvCSAyomtwD18c8sKI4BXhPNJ jUrhe2qn1V2AWRGGaTQJjdsaY9LqZGTMoBBbpGBh53BMjGgEz9PnSJwa7KsZNtlvvvwS srPrFDcRgBQz0vsq9JwniyHBcsGhyrqRKWEW2EwgkzmFWfD9XEhdHKNu5zEZNWemXsio OQGORnR4WpS1TyIjTh02foyY7hfUdUMQ/KlyS97JqfCPtEc9iVkxWUT7sZBThCGA7aam WiHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dBCNh+BfqTlSJ+EiHnTLdf9Z2LJE3TPIqMHz0n1OaLs=; b=YGYybAXf3sT4JPACBsmDg4W1U9/KUEtMg8mQe1kTcRwjtmyikz+OHU9ZPohvdh3lA3 ep7kDN0yb5YkFyIHb7wC5aBN70pe29jtUAdybFHrEYvORBCU7klU0odEvvaPZVMWg2Cl P77/sinZiCBVCk44LjNrMUh9DF9G9i0+L0iqJiInszq7dUaGjiRXYOScJk6T9sZUt3jy jY427cnNEId3vDSAbODh/n2TaHNybJFI0mR3udtunph68HjiSii+lTvT9wlVN+IamdhS DZ2pvTZLtI/Mzuv1KtruX6kJ4nD9k1XHfoLGMLR5dRuiKVATQUCe6M9L4hHPIn2ZdM8f cNZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvIbMji6JVk2vpDZqMA4Trb6sIGXkKV9eGcRRo4qCedriyJz0adxBTzEU7G59g3ZcZSymUhUJT8ubHdSg== X-Received: by 10.107.47.152 with SMTP id v24mr51826536iov.154.1469968398939; Sun, 31 Jul 2016 05:33:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:112134 Today, I was reading RH's Descriptor HowTo Guide at https://docs.python.org/3/howto/descriptor.html?highlight=3Ddescriptors I just really want to fully "get" this. So I put together a little test from scratch. Looks like this: class The: class Answer: def __get__(self, obj, type=3DNone): return 42 >>> The.Answer >>> but, I expected to see 42. So, digging deeper I read: For classes, the machinery is in type.__getattribute__() which transforms B.x into B.__dict__['x'].__get__(None, B). In pure Python, it looks like: def __getattribute__(self, key): "Emulate type_getattro() in Objects/typeobject.c" v =3D object.__getattribute__(self, key) if hasattr(v, '__get__'): return v.__get__(None, self) return v OK, so I copied this function, then ran it and got: >>> __getattribute__(The, 'Answer') 42 So, what I don't get is why the "B.x into B.__dict__['x'].__get__(None, B)" part doesn't work in my case. I'm sure I'm missing something here (that`s usually the case for me <:=E2= =80=91|) , but what?