Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Operator Precedence/Boolean Logic Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:22:33 +0200 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <15997174-44d5-431c-8f90-a8d700921820@googlegroups.com> <56ecacd4-cc17-48ec-9830-57c8113d16f6@googlegroups.com> <3a840cef-24d2-4abb-8e5b-dc80bf48944d@googlegroups.com> <63fe7ea9-a14f-94a2-cdd5-27aa902fbf6b@online.de> <576b8a41$0$2792$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <576B9B33.2030903@rece.vub.ac.be> <576ba258$0$11110$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <576BAAAE.1090306@rece.vub.ac.be> <576BD13F.3000505@rece.vub.ac.be> <1d9ea486-3db4-8a61-27bd-203bbce5df5d@online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de P9WT0cUa/+d6eTuuTDVp5gqjzOGpnYHXfDHQ5wDyC/tA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.047 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:192.168.178': 0.07; '*is*': 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'modes': 0.09; 'received:212.227.126': 0.09; 'itself.': 0.11; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; '23,': 0.16; 'next.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'set,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'math': 0.20; 'defined': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; '*the': 0.29; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'lets': 0.33; 'nothing.': 0.35; 'set.': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'watch': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'revealed': 0.72; 'wave': 0.72; 'truth': 0.79; 'angelico:': 0.84; 'of*': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'sets,': 0.84; 'notion': 0.91; 'same,': 0.91 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.1.0 In-Reply-To: <576BD13F.3000505@rece.vub.ac.be> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:oXVA5586gs9hrwD5u9mW67R1pNcQpUYOdlVj+sTj727Gklt5T8S 8X0E3p76EXhMvxf/u8fPDIYs08+yEP7s34eRPM5lo8OLdTUlRxcpJyW9OTX7yAT7o0knPt0 L/YWJlZpnVPvRMnf64Ib52UNbPNL0VCtERSXMPzC6MzbFC31BjwwPZP65jkQl7JLvqZlXrl MP8pC3bVbSk9iIbVIP0JQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:nxDeQRDlXys=:FezXWGVZjMrjEw3/pvfo/l JwPFUZgHgtkqyMjBoK0EJtiwjoaR4wKraBlYPZJj+GSHiW7Nzkjw5FI+P3LDxRbKaHe4n/ac1 lQ/jE1hxoAouBmB9csPEQTiAUjVru9AFEFOlReyoWUF8pciJ3x2JuzzHLq/ARcNLsSVFKoKkE MfpLAH9+9SiaZ8IH58+PJrfS/fxq5YpRtOo4S4ljH3gsh7gZ90vGshPjts+mwaxm3RrfOS7Uk yBdwYh4KK+Exrt0aUu3sGjfYUN//NzZl4Kj6T4G+VUI1X0+RZ147wVGc5H8uTXmufpde/cQzk 4LILhGf5tJ3vTXn+pBD3LCkZwIdNcooPLXBG4Jul2TluoUsluu/0xWieqKh3HyqPOVZOTg4M9 a+tHFpUtam02FcIg1fTOzjwxUzIakHk2PMtxuFTUt62mXV8hpijZRVp3n4K2f+3U/YQ6ZvWXB ieZ1njfzh6BDs0jjoJbJlqjc8xN9gBcrDqTBV5wunk90aQMSW2noBj1jQa+fr0iBVO2C+XUdX gWMuzut3CKQwrjmOkJsjQZ5LH0FK1zJ0Aldn1MsPTqvPF3PKhLMko2bGzqTodqlGpkdvnSv41 1hKa3qOWoZsBTxigNdkm9t2rAWu5GmVYJVRVVtzrtMJXpT/UMdycn48lixUiLc8nelf7VqNWk MLOul6MHlWP5TiSle652/jxgvDBpmexPFbGgih+JjFsfwIGJAQ3zyAQo3t1NAZ1FtY/QxiKMJ x5QbNF7okuVFQ3l/ X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1d9ea486-3db4-8a61-27bd-203bbce5df5d@online.de> X-Mailman-Original-References: <15997174-44d5-431c-8f90-a8d700921820@googlegroups.com> <56ecacd4-cc17-48ec-9830-57c8113d16f6@googlegroups.com> <3a840cef-24d2-4abb-8e5b-dc80bf48944d@googlegroups.com> <63fe7ea9-a14f-94a2-cdd5-27aa902fbf6b@online.de> <576b8a41$0$2792$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <576B9B33.2030903@rece.vub.ac.be> <576ba258$0$11110$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <576BAAAE.1090306@rece.vub.ac.be> <576BD13F.3000505@rece.vub.ac.be> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110413 On 23.06.2016 14:08, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 23-06-16 om 13:45 schreef Chris Angelico: >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Antoon Pardon >> wrote: >>> I don't care. In modern mathematics, zero is usaly defined as the >>> empty set. The empty set contains nothing, but it isn't nothing >>> itself. Otherwise the empty set would be the same as the set >>> containing the empty set, since they both would contain the same, >>> being nothing. >> Zero is *the cardinality of* the empty set. The set containing the >> empty set has a cardinality of 1. > In modern set theory where the integers are defined as specific kind > of sets, zero *is* the empty set. > Modes are like waves. If one wave arrives being "modern", lets watch out for the next. There not just one set-theory, math is neither revealed nor received on some mount - even if the notion of truth has some theological connotations ;)