Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Threading is foobared? Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 02:25:41 -0400 Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <56f74d00$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8560w8d2w3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de +xY0ntPrCJFgEmLlrwxkJwvvY9fvyS8YlGxWWqUUyTPQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'complained': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.44': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:compute4.internal': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'gateway': 0.22; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'least': 0.27; 'host': 0.28; 'posts': 0.30; 'standards': 0.30; 'weeks': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'replaced': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'ago.': 0.61; 'mar': 0.65; '26,': 0.72; 'wholesale': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=Uco0C773vTLvVoZPz938zZA82DM=; b=Q08UD6 9RXCYosVQab8YhWY2O5Cf/E3PRVYyd5By6zh62RC3wXTxYG2AyJBrfjwjUCJ9+cZ 04gGjZukezNyCont759Q4mDIrH6IKVqx6lZMQ0RL+7uQ1m20/thGbaFgf67G9hO9 4vjz0jsD+cB3Aw/VJFCBOzE5ovOmcF2A74z7s= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=Uco0C773vTLvVoZ Pz938zZA82DM=; b=jlBIBDRGWTZLS0LFXBxNdLkYUY1CsUGGJfyIvR3pWIo1PTx ZzYc8iNfReqy3uKnAcqZO+VY9FfLzlCdgEXlJlQENOcmJZRgpFYwN78AsQ2ktDhd dKxcuUATzCs5+0fn7gXZ0nHXOSIPpvzK5AzJdgx+/DjIFW79L9Jye7QAk04s= X-Sasl-Enc: CjYcUrBWiAX8VqeSf0kxjEo1XEeih7eNOitSIw8gqbZl 1459059941 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-eaa4717d In-Reply-To: <8560w8d2w3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:105819 On Sat, Mar 26, 2016, at 23:18, Ben Finney wrote: > What you've demonstrated is that at least one host is violating > communication standards by altering existing reference fields on > messages in transit. The usenet gateway relays posts that originated on the mailing list to usenet with their *Message-ID* replaced wholesale with "" - 90% of the time when I've traced a broken thread this has been to blame, and I've complained at least twice of this before, once not two weeks ago.