Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '21,': 0.07; 'binary': 0.07; 'versions,': 0.07; '32-bit': 0.09; 'will,': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'interpreter,': 0.16; "module's": 0.16; 'module?': 0.16; 'subject:library': 0.16; 'weird': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'version.': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; 'code,': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'java': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'usually': 0.31; 'enjoyed': 0.31; 'libraries': 0.31; 'front': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'third': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'computing': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'version,': 0.38; 'changed': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'around.': 0.60; 'wonderful': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'face': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'life': 0.66; 'cpu.': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'old.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=9R+0XVw0lBHUDj4ewkZMoGXRF2iQkGt7xnDl7EMTOo8=; b=w9CZl+s8t/k73PzUFw5hdZ4BMNk+qxfLRWvyNmLQhzosP3FqP/7soO6NGYfZKQzOUV ZfiAwZ+iyDoFzFyuVmQ9Qg2HrxLdFwstP1vA/9aGPPD6JkkFwqi75GFRZp8ETpPNwAI5 QDy7jtiEFLJ4VpTesV800Vi2YCkUzfw6i81nsjdH1L+Dc5SRRDA19dKA0rwQ0d3aznGx ZjD0I8yknNEulFBrjnOVd7geDQ3LRg5BdnobKyAaWv3OqNbTEhcUUR3EL8FdFOhgr7za CY0NAAIerzBSp9LoSXoDsfte/us8PLwXlCXjG6PGVyLkdzt2chVIy+buIqQ1nC942rmK yFzg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.102.39 with SMTP id fl7mr3073410pab.43.1392914174282; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:36:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87mwhl699j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <87mwhm6q3e.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87eh2y6n1d.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87a9dm6l5c.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <8738je6jf8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87txbt6ckn.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87mwhl699j.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 03:36:14 +1100 Subject: Re: Commonly-used names in the Python standard library From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1392914178 news.xs4all.nl 2887 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48966 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:66772 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Chris Angelico : > >> Also, what happens if two modules (one of which might be your script) >> written for different versions both import some third module? Should >> they get different versions, based on what version tags they use >> themselves? Compatibility can't be changed that easily. You either run >> on the new version, or run on the old. Not both. > > Shared C libraries face the exact same issue. Java seems pretty good on > this front as well. When there is a will, there is a way. Shared C libraries usually do it by linking against a particular version. That's why you often need to keep multiple versions around. Once it's all binary code, there's no more compatibility question - it all runs on the same CPU. With Python code, the module's written to run on a particular interpreter, and that can't just switch around - it's like the weird and wonderful life I enjoyed as 32-bit computing started coming along, and I wanted to call on code that used the other word length... ChrisA