Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.etla.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'skip:[ 20': 0.04; 'output': 0.05; 'session.': 0.07; '[1,': 0.09; 'latter': 0.09; 'will,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; '"python"': 0.16; 'iterating': 0.16; 'reproduce': 0.16; 'rewritten': 0.16; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'print': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'script': 0.25; 'push': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'list:': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; 'cells': 0.31; 'guess': 0.33; 'received:74.125.82': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'subject:lists': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'ca,': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.39; 'use.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'back': 0.62; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'complete': 0.62; "you've": 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'other.': 0.75; 'console,': 0.84; 'forward,': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ZduXtgzadjk8xbTnqYl8/j11ouMs74xoukN8RCshnaY=; b=c+C7bXqFHKREn88xlGXxUuz4AYgx+vYfHe4kjzmSe59COq6qTeTilrxxmBgT/3T+qf JkKUTExs0OTYfJOSiLvjCq0c+6TcSgi/bHGw6EpH2Yz1PPY1raembygz6+mAuoE4AGfZ LScdEavFNbdKyOCiDhB+YMidWPYi0JtRwO+3jJ+bQzvSZkhBOP42m4ONH6IftT4PqXbS +9wXzEHT1T6ibu13/dYf9a3KJ0kvRz8jjtogz0HpdCPuwe5gMIOau/5LB7opSuILF790 4hRe52Zb7YOvE+Vhb2KHraHVrnGIxPM2kbhCj6k0GVHz356F1lvN2G4z3JY6zyxQ2hQx DepA== X-Received: by 10.194.178.39 with SMTP id cv7mr10069027wjc.53.1366194339944; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:25:37 +0200 From: aaB To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: a couple of things I don't understand wrt lists Mail-Followup-To: python-list@python.org References: <20130416153701.GA18377@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366194346 news.xs4all.nl 2575 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41419 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43752 Hello, Thanks for all your replies, things are getting clearer. - copy/paste vs retyping: Several people have remarked that I had retyped instead of copy/pasting. This is exactly what happened, the fact is I haven't figured out yet how to enable copy/pasting from urxvt to vim. I'll try to get this done before posting output from an interactive session. - iterating a list: If I understand what you've told me, bitpattern = [1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1] for bit in bitpattern: print bit and bitpattern = [1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1] for i in range(len(bitpattern)): print bitpattern[i] are equivalent, the former being more "python" and the latter being something like C written using python syntax. - the "complement" thing: I haven't yet tried to reproduce this, but I will, and I will post back if I see this happening again, this time with a real log of python's interactive console, or a complete script which people can use. - list comprehension: I wasn't at all aware of this, thanks a lot for pointing it out. I had an other function that generated a list of cells for the CA, each cell being randomly alive or dead. I have rewritten it using list comprehension, def populate(n): random.seed() return [random.randint(0,1) for i in range(n)] which works the same as my previous, C-like, version but feels much better. I might come back to you all but you've already given me a good push forward, so I guess I'll be trying to use it as much as I can before asking for an other.