Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.069 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.01; 'cpython': 0.05; 'repository': 0.05; 'affected': 0.07; 'occasionally': 0.09; 'url:github': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.14; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'clone': 0.16; 'python;': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:unresponsive': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'obviously': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'working.': 0.19; 'machine': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'fine': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'mirror': 0.31; 'python.org.': 0.31; 'servers.': 0.31; 'though.': 0.31; 'work:': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'connection': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'machine.': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'server': 0.38; 'problems': 0.38; 'connections': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'times': 0.62; 'maximum': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'talking': 0.65; 'minutes': 0.67; 'close': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'hour': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; '5:36': 0.84; 'irrelevant': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'persistent': 0.84; 'url:cpython': 0.84; 'forever.': 0.91; 'subject:Server': 0.91; 'bandwidth': 0.96; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=w2HVPCBslx5w3PBM/sCp4SdEW5lVZ3mqcHc56iwAIs4=; b=xnytOsmqCjogXl6tDFNEps5Yp+w/pU/Bt+yRNa2NBas2mwmok/YpsBwXezp35HSfxi YxRX44Owxm/8dwc5WyFe5MnYcgpZxaWoPCkLb/w5onEF3WeaPieCTyGYUrkfrjf9NLU/ NXtOuZ9z7sXUUpxPhxalQFLgu76Pi5HWXioeHHAqj3zP4CR88IaCYyGPaIC+TjGzxEPP NsY2NZg4KPwdt9VHP42N6++a/g1ln74mVHeKnjn1xl8Qkzf2zKPspNtHB3B3lkbouxET Fc2k1WPtkNDedarrPzS81CUHWFKnM00kVXJs4y9E5GkdEyyOpxuOSQhp9xsew0U6WoDF oAQg== X-Received: by 10.52.103.35 with SMTP id ft3mr9976734vdb.5.1380880007613; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 02:46:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: From: Oscar Benjamin Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:46:27 +0100 Subject: Re: hg.python.org: Server unresponsive and timeout To: Terry Reedy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1380880015 news.xs4all.nl 15868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46649 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:55462 On 2 October 2013 23:25, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/2/2013 5:36 AM, Tae Wong wrote: >> >> This post is irrelevant from using Python; so it's an Internet server >> problem. >> >> When you try to connect to hg.python.org, the connection takes forever. > > > I believe hg.python.org is on a different machine than python.org. It has > occasionally been down, but works fine with Firefox. Sometimes connections > fail even if both endpoints are working. If you have a particular persistent > problem with hg.python.org, I suggest talking to your ISP. > > Cloning the CPython repository may take an hour or two if that is what you > are trying to do. It takes 15 minutes to clone with hg from hg.python.org on my machine. It takes 4 minutes on the same machine to clone the semi-official github mirror using git: 'git clone https://github.com/python/cpython.git' Those times are obviously affected by the fact that I have a very good internet connection at work: neither of the above operations comes close to the maximum bandwidth that I can access from some servers. Perhaps if there are problems with hg.python.org you might want to try the github mirror though. Oscar