Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'c++,': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '(note': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'objective-c,': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:OOP': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:possible': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'java,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'java': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; '-0700,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'generic': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'read': 0.60; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'by:': 0.65; 'family': 0.73; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.77; 'mesa,': 0.84; 'sender:addr:chris': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rebertia.com; s=google; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z6jQQG5HLgdlgxQWaweoOirkaoUXXpkNqzFJbPHgBa4=; b=Oc3qWxi61TU98dcWd6YKaA5wciunLtzrsn+hJ8SfbNuwWEGCvo8pm75gKSZqObRU9d khP1e8RKFtFF/h4zbCMYZksbc1kCnUsl4OaAXDPDIyHu4vPPtSPGVHPDaxB4uebS9S8i oSqql+h6BfFx/zUURkE/aUon9LW6MJewQYu2M= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=z6jQQG5HLgdlgxQWaweoOirkaoUXXpkNqzFJbPHgBa4=; b=OFVYV7dB5Uby4ptt3jXSHR6SshMnQTXV216yk6meQQZRHZWXor3RhZz2pD5VSE4P9I uJKxZik/O8DAhX3Ewt50NMu8ev7IzeV3xf8HEs06FLjWLMBUIAZWkg/7qWGri+jDwdln A6n1Zc/t42tjRWcFR6jYKQ51JlNS+5e2HsZcxb6busypnN65vVi93E0RN13RlrxVv0nx 4DbPNMtGhTCb5oTkONr29tyOzrsx3PiR2sV/D5XJQwBzO3570aiXdKVn6m4Qg8IDoA0x ZTS4Ob4XkhvvLT5V0ujPcaBahZPcA56DYdHdr/4LJ1rkHWW6IbVUYZxbl+tIxIQerM06 I4yg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.62.12 with SMTP id wy12mr2958551icb.19.1366182981741; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: chris@rebertia.com In-Reply-To: <516e43ea$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <516bd241$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <516C3C44.6010706@rece.vub.ac.be> <516e43ea$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:16:21 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: NQUcCrrsTZpMIRebj18rkXL0MW8 Subject: Re: The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages From: Chris Rebert Cc: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl/BdhZ9NdZ6qaMK3THeIp9v+lVB6biFQHh6C0ihbRzLmx0R7CB5u6CSUmqH12r1L+wJIw6 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366182991 news.xs4all.nl 2571 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33635 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43738 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:38:29 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote: > > (Note this contrasts starkly with Java(script), which doesn't seem > > to be based on anything -- can anyone clarify where Java actually comes > > from?) > > C. "Influenced by: Ada 83, C++, C#, Eiffel, Generic Java, Mesa, Modula-3, Oberon, Objective-C, UCSD Pascal, Smalltalk" "Categories: C programming language family | [...]" =E2=80=93 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language) Sincerely, Chris -- Read Wikipedia's infoboxes! People work hard on them!