Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.043 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.01; 'beginner': 0.04; 'beginners': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'am,': 0.12; 'clarified': 0.16; 'definition,': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'readability.': 0.16; 'ties': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'somehow': 0.18; 'seems': 0.20; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'correct,': 0.23; 'indentation': 0.23; 'code': 0.26; 'testing': 0.26; 'colon': 0.30; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.31; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.38; 'programming.': 0.39; 'being': 0.40; 'user': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'more': 0.61; 'helping': 0.62; 'is.': 0.63; 'discovered': 0.70; 'taught': 0.71; 'attention': 0.71; '09:18': 0.84; 'passage': 0.84; 'draws': 0.91; 'unclear': 0.91; 'increases': 0.93 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:17:36 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python is readable References: <4f612b19$0$1379$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <8e72d74f-c844-4de3-8a37-f6b1fdc2291f@y27g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> <50e9ceec-40f1-4ead-b2b6-87328b30d084@ow8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <4f61c828$0$1390$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61d728$0$1375$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61fd0a$0$1389$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f620837$0$1382$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> In-Reply-To: <4f620837$0$1382$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1331849863 news.xs4all.nl 6926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40833 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:21718 On 03/15/2012 09:18 AM, Kiuhnm wrote: > ----> After early user testing without the colon, it was discovered that > the meaning of the indentation was unclear to beginners being taught the > first steps of programming. <---- > > The addition of the colon clarified it significantly: the colon somehow > draws attention to what follows and ties the phrases before and after it > together in just the right way." > > If that passage is correct, those studies don't say that adding the > colon increases the readability, but that it makes more sense to > beginners who don't even know what indentation is. Seems to me that helping code to make more sense to a beginner is, by definition, increasing readability.