Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.066 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.87; '*S*': 0.00; '(instead': 0.09; 'answering': 0.09; 'compact': 0.09; 'item,': 0.09; 'item.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'semantic': 0.09; 'being,': 0.16; 'example).': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'helps!': 0.16; 'in;': 0.16; 'missing?': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sequence,': 0.16; 'subject:sample': 0.16; 'tuple': 0.16; 'tuple,': 0.16; 'tuple.': 0.16; 'things.': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '(such': 0.24; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'tim': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'chase': 0.31; 'libraries': 0.31; 'probability': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'choosing': 0.36; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'sequence': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'arrange': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'list,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'hope': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'sum': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'positions': 0.67; 'sample': 0.67; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'money': 0.72; 'records': 0.73; 'special': 0.74; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.77; '100': 0.79; '50),': 0.84; 'alone.': 0.84; 'of*': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'sweat': 0.84; "they'd": 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cthis': 0.84; 'genius': 0.91; 'hopes': 0.91; 'scientists,': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: random.sample with large weighted sample-sets? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:08:27 +1100 References: <20140215224145.68c82eb4@bigbox.christie.dr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vmx15867.hosting24.com.au X-Public-Key-ID: 0xBD41714B X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 9CFE 12B0 791A 4267 887F 520C B7AC 2E51 BD41 714B X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cyNYCfIyCyd8HFQgcICGrkGWHnA= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 56 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1392527326 news.xs4all.nl 2857 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58412 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:66507 Tim Chase writes: > I'm not coming up with the right keywords to find what I'm hunting. > I'd like to randomly sample a modestly compact list with weighted > distributions, so I might have > > data = ( > ("apple", 20), > ("orange", 50), > ("grape", 30), > ) That's not a list, it's a tuple. I think you want a list. When you want a sequence where each position has a semantic meaning, use a tuple (such as ‘("apple", 20)’). Each item has a meaning *because of* the position it's in; if the items were in a different order, they'd mean different things. When you want a sequence where the positions don't have a special meaning – each item means exactly the same no matter if you change the order – that's sometimes called a “homogeneous” sequence, and you want a list. So a “record” should be represented as a tuple, and a “table” of records should be represented as a list of tuples: records = [ ("apple", 20), ("orange", 50), ("grape", 30), ] > and I'd like to random.sample() it as if it was a 100-element list. The implication being, I suppose, that you'd like the number in each tuple to be a weighting for the probability of choosing that item. For probability weightings, you should arrange for the weightings to sum to 1 (instead of 100 in your example). Then each weighting is simply the desired probability of that item, and those values will work with various libraries that deal with probability. > What am I missing? (links to relevant keywords/searches/algorithms > welcome in lieu of actually answering in-line) You're looking for a “probability distribution” and “weighted choice”. Hope that helps! -- \ “This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending | `\ the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the | _o__) hopes of its children.” —Dwight Eisenhower, 1953-04-16 | Ben Finney