Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path: <python-python-list@m.gmane.org>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'startup': 0.05; 'confuse': 0.09; 'object)': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'type)': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.11; 'ignore': 0.14; 'subject:python': 0.14; 'obviously': 0.15; 'interpreter': 0.15; "guido's": 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:class': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'creates': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'trying': 0.22; 'object.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.26; 'this.': 0.28; 'rest': 0.28; '(it': 0.29; 'terry': 0.29; 'classes': 0.30; 'guys': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'core': 0.32; 'similar': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'lists.': 0.35; 'except': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'rather': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'decision': 0.61; 'us.': 0.62; "'object'": 0.84; 'confusing': 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91
X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/
To: python-list@python.org
From: Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject: Re: Everything is an object in python - object class and type class
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:23:19 -0400
References: <14976c1b-a620-426f-b529-41a3c04e9c1a@googlegroups.com> <48fc36e9-fa67-45d5-9864-0921b7e819ce@googlegroups.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-98-114-97-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0
In-Reply-To: <48fc36e9-fa67-45d5-9864-0921b7e819ce@googlegroups.com>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Message-ID: <mailman.70.1433262257.13271.python-list@python.org>
Lines: 34
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace: 1433262257 news.xs4all.nl 2883 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33752
X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91856

On 6/2/2015 6:36 AM, Eddilbert Macharia wrote:

> you guys are just confusing me, you are going in loops,

Ignore the troll who is trying to confuse you by slandering the rest of 
us.  I have been using python for 18 years, I believe. Current Python 
has a loop at the core

 >>> isinstance(type, object)
True
 >>> isinstance(object, type)
True

For using python, you hardly need to know this. (It obviously was not 
true before 'object' was added in 2.2.)  The interpreter creates this 
loop on startup with code similar to the following, except that it does 
so with classes rather than lists.

 >>> lob = []
 >>> l0 = []
 >>> l1 = [l0]
 >>> l0.append(l1)
 >>> l0 in l1
True
 >>> l1 in l0
True

 > and still i have understood ,what makes everything in python an object.

Guido's decision to make python be that way.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy