Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'operator': 0.03; 'argument': 0.05; 'imply': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'themselves,': 0.09; '"in"': 0.16; '*should*': 0.16; 'definition.': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'value.': 0.19; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'fine': 0.24; 'define': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'said,': 0.30; 'argue': 0.31; 'equality': 0.31; 'wright': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'equal': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'obvious': 0.74; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.77; 'received:125': 0.84; 'road.': 0.84; 'obvious,': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Is nan in (nan,) correct? Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 10:20:10 +1100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:vjtxFiDVsbBr0s0m9Z6mgo2Ab6Y= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425597600 news.xs4all.nl 2973 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52697 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86964 sohcahtoa82@gmail.com writes: > I would argue that if `a is b` then it is obvious that `a == b` It may be obvious, but it's not necessarily true. Some commonly-used values – for example, an “null” – are not equal to themselves, by definition. It is fine to define such a type in Python, because ‘is’ does not necessarily imply ‘==’. > I would also argue that the "in" operator *SHOULD* be using equality > of value. Hopefully you can see how that argument is incorrect. -- \ “Yesterday I told a chicken to cross the road. It said, ‘What | `\ for?’” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney