Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 22:02:49 -0400 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <93639142-6b82-4b8a-8bd0-7f4593e1f692@googlegroups.com> <5716595b$0$1585$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3d95437c-6427-46d2-8e9f-470f121194cd@googlegroups.com> <20160419124321.361751dc@bigbox.christie.dr> <1461092090.2638611.583593041.7C981FAD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5716ceab$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1461117769.2452693.583923689.23F7301B@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 81+CM2+jU3tsNPe1SUmW7gKcR59wy6j/lqVQW1UMgrbg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'alignment': 0.07; 'formatting': 0.07; 'stops': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'obligated': 0.09; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'tab': 0.09; 'text"': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'devoid': 0.16; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.44': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:compute4.internal': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'support)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'plain': 0.24; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'discussion': 0.24; 'sense': 0.26; 'editors': 0.29; 'indentation': 0.29; 'markup': 0.29; 'spaces': 0.29; 'structure,': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'fixed': 0.31; 'source': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'tue,': 0.34; 'text': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'format': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'programs': 0.62; 'yes': 0.62; 'here.': 0.62; 'flat': 0.63; 'world': 0.64; '1970s,': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=FjlI6ZTiEBwSnV2d0r0dJAo50gQ=; b=2G+NnC jv+8G0d3ZhFajb5QIyfjXKe9flos1mSLFQG2d35GR0ro0CXm9FBEdfLB4wnvXhwf zKRgk+wmY+UFktSEIkTtPken4D/oJjVIykDUfbILVXbg4gFlruZoLQJrVLltjsh5 GQ++TjQ2s7g4wo/4iHjfc3P28ilV2TR6oX4wk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=FjlI6ZTiEBwSnV2 d0r0dJAo50gQ=; b=UnmRFANfrNwqLGIYAU1rSt7UuTz8Uvtc3PYkPxCgMT8w/a4 deWq2Pr5ZrKWVfZae49dlm813Ym7jGyzcJ1Wbpd5MJwCli2BjU7jCyiSN0f3GOmi fcyc4ZUyiFZSaagDI0umX59F2qDqOG5vFKXcvQKQi+kLjJHa2iOwhv1gmPV0= X-Sasl-Enc: hM6VRVvMiO+dVP3jJ++4+6KPmNmjV35fS2fklceefcpx 1461117769 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-9b739787 In-Reply-To: <5716ceab$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1461117769.2452693.583923689.23F7301B@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <93639142-6b82-4b8a-8bd0-7f4593e1f692@googlegroups.com> <5716595b$0$1585$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3d95437c-6427-46d2-8e9f-470f121194cd@googlegroups.com> <20160419124321.361751dc@bigbox.christie.dr> <1461092090.2638611.583593041.7C981FAD@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5716ceab$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107386 On Tue, Apr 19, 2016, at 20:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > That's not the sense of being discussed here. Yes it is - this started as a discussion of whether indentation and alignment should be based on fixed spaces (as text editors support) or dynamic tab stops (as any word processing format supports). > How absurd. Why should a > letter containing nothing but text be classified as "not text" because it > was written in Microsoft World or LibreOffice rather than vi or emacs? Because it's not _a text file_. It's not obligated to be devoid of formatting markup or other metadata, or to have a perfectly flat structure, or to be edited in programs whose design has not been updated since the early 1970s, which are _exactly_ the complaints leveled against python source code at the start of this discussion.. ______ : Python :: MS Word : Plain Text