Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Everything good about Python except GUI IDE? Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:34:39 +1100 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <64a6599c-fae1-469d-bcee-875165b3cc7d@googlegroups.com> <56d294f8$0$1604$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <62084c14-abd1-4214-af08-70ce8449c83e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Ux4kdCtb7b79cNK87rL8Mgs+mlQzyI6bSDXlEhGFPKUg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'thats': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'code),': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'resort.': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'figures': 0.18; 'merge': 0.18; 'changes': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; '(by': 0.22; 'code,': 0.23; 'feb': 0.23; '(you': 0.23; "python's": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'fine': 0.28; 'that.': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'maybe': 0.33; 'source': 0.33; 'lets': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'response.': 0.66; 'day': 0.67; 'lack': 0.76; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'complexity': 0.84; 'me).': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'virtue': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=zWn0IOqzBbH90J5gtTacSUYMn9pndm8Eoyft6pR9h4c=; b=pnFk2WQ9P8+KgnWbaVI8ttko9YtyLRTcmAMgqQOBzZNzlfGOMpt/BxbuuC1Bq+4iNS JhjQbNuPMiDsECr2GzLYOj4fEj1U2S06LrXQpXbriCl8PLcwrQftrzOt+BVWMgI5g/IO /kp0H4s3VqlKzGZgni8bz4++IgCrRFV3NZ64Cjbb678NuMjn+5MP/ni+s70f1c9tSFgI HuAniLGervXs/fPHyHWy8zWFPTQqLbERsmS/8xoQ2HiqQBkbMS9djRQWRZnIITcxJ/rw ydhsKk1B/zQRaspt9IInoUX0uCdJgqZZOrACeTwAzOnNK3IQyyFjOjLewey7d9Yky85t kkZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=zWn0IOqzBbH90J5gtTacSUYMn9pndm8Eoyft6pR9h4c=; b=IMGjkXLnXuxCN9Kw9gx7mEJhrqc/UB8uRW8dgt9DC3ebll9102uAem5gjf6+wAUbcj EJ0QUZF0Km+QDGuNPTjZYb0NLiw8+ZamkEH6vzYBGNWm7fxrl0rocJj2QmOsrtI7OiYR SZMnYnxDGREGaLq5Tr2xuVcJyP9BrWrNq1XlD46ImWMlaQmooMck79+e1s5l2Z0D6WBz aDTtkos3dFWocWwc0jc9hYrG/wBoq3g8UKBvLaBhAw1KHcdwK6kpm64USRcHHVY0E34t v7WPbOPGoTK+2OA4BQN/vJSX8oIvGyIu1oblHZjzLXA43oNWJQXJUg5bBdcTffmHsFhz K4kQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJoSfws/yrjbLjlduxWpuWyS7PY71DHTbdB3mpXjM3K5t3ShQT6i+GuwVpPzcwwHwYB5CciYm3xdH/QLg== X-Received: by 10.51.17.34 with SMTP id gb2mr5199479igd.13.1456655679274; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 02:34:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <62084c14-abd1-4214-af08-70ce8449c83e@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21rc2 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:103623 On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > Code is always the last resort for arbitrary complexity > Lets keep it the last resort. > > If the bottom-line is that python's GUI-builders are so deep into suxland > that they are best avoided in place of hand-written code, thats fine (by me). > > Lets please not make a virtue of a lack Once someone figures out a way to usefully merge independent changes (you know, the way source control tools do every single day for code), maybe I'll consider that. Until then, the last resort is also my first response. ChrisA