Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'binary': 0.05; 'prefix': 0.07; 'exception:': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'syntax': 0.13; '0o,': 0.16; ':-p': 0.16; 'hex': 0.16; 'literal,': 0.16; 'literal.': 0.16; 'literals': 0.16; 'literals,': 0.16; 'literals.': 0.16; 'octal': 0.16; 'zeroes': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'obviously': 0.16; 'integer': 0.18; '2015': 0.20; 'sat,': 0.23; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'error': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'error.': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'int': 0.33; 'raised': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'similar': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'instead': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'leading': 0.61; 'legal': 0.66; 'prohibited': 0.70; 'jul': 0.72; '010': 0.84; 'confusing': 0.84; 'consequently': 0.84; 'subject:leading': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Bahy9S1M10kuwfTJsK010WSEWITGQBgrjMpnf2lAA4w=; b=JFDQVYVIeFgEgRA7h+x4fKOVKGlRy8gZHmf0iCWhuzSGaRj5DhIrsdrxuVqpmlLgwr szBOicebxSQJslqGT/I8lEdbAOlNNoSV2JE+0mA9Oxnv3TBWocBbhxU+j8NZFCj2D3lK or4nPRrlNJbCwhPLtKo/McHZMvwdM7rHCqymEOII1bNZutYUzPML9+1DvUak4zF9lUIg X1RV6gQ6GfgHVho6fclalw+00rfD+Z5CLqtXHK9f/WsbssOGk2HEEEYewPjqpSVAEr4i ara1jfV2+gg4FpxniPUU7bd4Tr6hXcXiAswm5dxtczKqFGFobtb1nzmjI2+vff36ofne grLA== X-Received: by 10.170.141.4 with SMTP id i4mr22845664ykc.32.1437284808007; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:46:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55ab37fb$0$1661$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <55ab37fb$0$1661$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:46:08 -0600 Subject: Re: Integers with leading zeroes To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437284811 news.xs4all.nl 2835 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38027 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94096 On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > In Python 2, integer literals with leading zeroes are treated as octal, so > 09 is a syntax error and 010 is 8. > > This is confusing to those not raised on C-style octal literals, so in > Python 3 leading zeroes are prohibited in int literals. Octal is instead > written using the prefix 0o, similar to hex 0x and binary 0b. > > Consequently Python 3 makes both 09 and 010 a syntax error. > > However there is one exception: zero itself is allowed any number of leading > zeroes, so 00000 is a legal way to write zero as a base-10 int literal. It's obviously a base-8 literal, not a base-10 literal. :-P > Does anyone use that (mis)feature? I don't, but why should it matter?