Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'tutorial': 0.03; 'beginner': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'imo.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'url:moin': 0.24; 'long,': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'especially': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'accidentally': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'trouble': 0.34; 'common': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:com.au': 0.36; 'ryan': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'saves': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'url:3': 0.61; 'skip:* 10': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'valuable': 0.63; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'targeted': 0.69; 'received:125': 0.84; 'invited': 0.85; '8bit%:56': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: How to begin Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:57:53 +1100 References: <8a78be96-7d26-47ff-9627-246d85410cd2@googlegroups.com> <52FD4C40.9050001@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vmx15867.hosting24.com.au X-Public-Key-ID: 0xBD41714B X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 9CFE 12B0 791A 4267 887F 520C B7AC 2E51 BD41 714B X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-gpg.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:dwp1VV3sIGYrhovqsu3oh9Zhj90= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1392339485 news.xs4all.nl 2884 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40400 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:66274 Ryan Gonzalez writes: > Read the Python reference. I know it's long, but it saves you trouble > of accidentally reinventing the wheel. Hmm, the language reference is targeted at people *implementing* Python, not people who are learning to use it (though it is valuable for them also). It would be rather overwhelming for a beginner, IMO. You should instead be directing newcomers to beginner documentation, such as and especially the Python tutorial . -- \ “If you get invited to your first orgy, don't just show up | `\ nude. That's a common mistake. You have to let nudity | _o__) ‘happen.’” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney