Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'encoding': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'encoded': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'bytes,': 0.09; 'happen.': 0.09; 'url:unicode': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'ideally,': 0.16; 'message- id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'pairs': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'surrogate': 0.16; 'unlikely': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'result.': 0.19; 'not,': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'appears': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'form:': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'skip:" 20': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'characters': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'there.': 0.32; 'guess': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'convert': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'in:': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'support,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'catch': 0.60; 'conversion': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'url:0': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; 'combining': 0.68; 'containing': 0.69; '2015': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=DZWZq5dW c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=SY9aFQKHIdAA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Lpnxw2taAAAA:8 a=te1EGT4yAAAA:8 a=p-Iw2RACd4HDK46Ah9oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 16:53:47 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Unicode surrogate pairs (Python 3.4) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1430668429 news.xs4all.nl 2929 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36426 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:89877 On 2015-05-03 16:32, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2015-05-03, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Jon Ribbens >> wrote: >>> If I have a string containing surrogate pairs like this in Python 3.4: >>> >>> "\udb40\udd9d" >>> >>> How do I convert it into the proper form: >>> >>> "\U000E019D" >>> >>> ? The answer appears not to be "unicodedata.normalize". >> >> No, it's not, because Unicode normalization is a very specific thing. >> You're looking for a fix for some kind of encoding issue; Unicode >> normalization translates between combining characters and combined >> characters. >> >> You shouldn't even actually _have_ those in your string in the first >> place. How did you construct/receive that data? Ideally, catch it at >> that point, and deal with it there. > > That would, unfortunately, be "tell the Unicode Consortium to format > their documents differently", which seems unlikely to happen. I'm > trying to read in: http://www.unicode.org/Public/idna/6.3.0/IdnaTest.txt > That document looks like it's encoded in UTF-8. >> But if you absolutely have to convert the surrogates, it ought to be >> possible to do a sloppy UCS-2 conversion to bytes, then a proper >> UTF-16 decode on the result. > > Python doesn't appear to have UCS-2 support, so I guess what you're > saying is that I have to write my own surrogate-decoder? This seems > a little surprising. >