Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'board.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'alter': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'language.': 0.14; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'finney': 0.16; 'nerds': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'unicode': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; 'claiming': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'kind': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'wish': 0.70; 'cut': 0.74; 'female': 0.84; 'panties': 0.84; 'rue': 0.84; 'subject:girl': 0.84; 'welcoming': 0.84; 'dating': 0.91; 'gender': 0.91; 'subject:!! ': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: HELP!! How to ask a girl out with a simple witty Python code?? Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 23:07:13 +0000 References: <8c09473e-92df-40ac-b083-d2b3a2b75188@googlegroups.com> <2906370c-58c7-4d8b-8db3-2ea3773b9578@googlegroups.com> <54f8d56a$0$12984$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85lhjbyrrs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-2-24.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 In-Reply-To: <85lhjbyrrs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425596848 news.xs4all.nl 2888 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43734 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86962 On 05/03/2015 22:59, Ben Finney wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > >> Ben Finney wrote: >> >>> sohcahtoa82@gmail.com writes: >>> >>>> I should have known better than to make a joke on this mailing >>>> list. Someone is bound to get their panties all up in a bunch. >>> >>> You should have known better than to make gendered slurs. Claiming >>> “it was a joke” doesn't alter the sexism of your remarks. Cut that >>> out. >> >> "You're asking a bunch of nerds for dating advice?" > > “get their panties all up in a bunch” is a gendered slur. It is implying > the person is female, as though the person should feel insulted by that. > It uses the female gender as an insult. > > That's not welcoming to anyone female, and we should all be welcoming to > anyone of any gender here — which includes not using any gender as the > punch-line of a joke. > I just wish this kind of approach was used consistently across the board. That way we wouldn't have had to put up with the appalling slurs from our RUE (Resident Unicode Expert) for perhaps two years. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence