Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'pycon': 0.03; 'fixes': 0.05; 'considered.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; 'cares': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'released.': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'fixed.': 0.18; 'fix': 0.21; 'year,': 0.22; 'spring': 0.22; '(or': 0.23; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'volunteers': 0.29; 'asked': 0.29; 'initially': 0.30; 'normally': 0.30; 'programmers': 0.30; 'users.': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'core': 0.32; 'aside': 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'is?': 0.33; 'gets': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.37; 'release': 0.37; 'summer': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; '2010,': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'build': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'personally': 0.61; 'ending': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'reply': 0.68; 'presented': 0.72; 'background:': 0.81; 'viewpoints': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 19:36:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-98-114-97-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.gmane.org:119 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437262618 news.xs4all.nl 2960 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44708 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94071 I asked the following as an off-topic aside in a reply on another thread. I got one response which presented a point I had not considered. I would like more viewpoints from 2.7 users. Background: each x.y.0 release normally gets up to 2 years of bugfixes, until x.(y+1).0 is released. For 2.7, released summer 2010, the bugfix period was initially extended to 5 years, ending about now. At the spring pycon last year, the period was extended to 10 years, with an emphasis on security and build fixed. My general question is what other fixes should be made? Some specific forms of this question are the following. If the vast majority of Python programmers are focused on 2.7, why are volunteers to help fix 2.7 bugs so scarce? Does they all consider it perfect (or sufficient) as is? Should the core developers who do not personally use 2.7 stop backporting, because no one cares if they do? -- Terry Jan Reedy