Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'elements.': 0.05; 'remaining': 0.07; 'stack.': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'polish': 0.09; 'pushed': 0.13; 'stack': 0.13; 'emulator': 0.16; 'hewlett': 0.16; 'packard': 0.16; 'received:10.0.1.5': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; 'subject:assistance': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'received:10.0.1': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'versions': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'dropped': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'elements': 0.23; '(e.g.,': 0.27; 'moved': 0.27; 'received:17': 0.27; 'notation': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'entry': 0.31; 'bill': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'could': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'itself': 0.38; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'header:MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'subject:Need': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; 'jul': 0.72; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'interchange': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'to:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.84 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-07-18_03:2015-07-17,2015-07-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1507180316 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: Need assistance From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 14:28:05 -0400 Cc: "William R. Wing" , python-list@python.org Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <225d4ac6-3b88-4844-805b-b4b00cd62ef4@googlegroups.com> <55AA2BDE.6050605@web.de> <"of> <18> <2015> <12:35:10> <+0200."@mac.com> <55AA2BDE.6050605@web.de> <201507181216.t6ICGBrY022256@fido.openend.se> To: Mark Lawrence X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437262501 news.xs4all.nl 2877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42254 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94070 > On Jul 18, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Mark Lawrence = wrote: >=20 >=20 [byte] > What is an {HP calculator} roll operation? >=20 The original Hewlett Packard =E2=80=9CScientific=E2=80=9D calculators = (HP-35, 45, 65, etc) that used Polish notation (operand, operand, = operation; with no =E2=80=9C=3D=E2=80=9C sign) had a stack. That stack = itself could be manipulated (e.g., interchange X and Y). One of the = stack manipulation commands was =E2=80=9CRoll=E2=80=9D which moved the = top entry into X and pushed remaining elements up one. Later versions = had both Roll-up and Roll-down, Roll-down moved the X entry to the top = of the stack and dropped the other elements. Bill (Who still uses an HP-45 emulator on his iPhone) > --=20 > My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask > what you can do for our language. >=20 > Mark Lawrence >=20 > --=20 > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list