Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.072 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'imply': 0.07; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.13; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'bieber': 0.16; 'declaimed': 0.16; 'definition.': 0.16; 'objectively': 0.16; 'pm,': 0.16; '(which': 0.20; 'ignore': 0.21; "aren't": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'wrong?': 0.23; 'tue,': 0.23; 'statement': 0.25; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'lee': 0.28; "didn't": 0.29; "one's": 0.30; 'taste': 0.30; 'andrew': 0.32; 'certainly': 0.32; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.32; "i've": 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'be.': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; "can't": 0.34; 'example,': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'similar': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'could': 0.37; 'received:192': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'largely': 0.38; 'received:192.168.1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'facts': 0.64; 'subject:!': 0.67; 'relevant': 0.69; 'subject:The': 0.73; 'encountered': 0.73; 'dennis': 0.77; '-0500,': 0.84; 'beliefs': 0.84; 'eventual': 0.84; 'objective.': 0.84; 'subjective': 0.84; 'contradict': 0.91; 'subject:come': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kb1sD9IZKNZdqEFnsoAG41NlpGnMlTQHijiXIA0gTug=; b=NXPzqCw7FuI/h9PQF0m75EMDp4ywJT6xuKm7v8oSy94or0HEM7d7PTAcW5XhBGzUdR Q+Er5bXzd5jFuiIXz9KxysY1SvXSk7c4FhKLCq2S3CtCPW+6tfAa4ps8WKTBIknYf3ZN sBjJ2UkGRe7rbFYDY26c2Ga/PR28Nrsl12IAI= Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 00:37:55 -0500 From: Andrew Berg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "comp.lang.python" Subject: Re: The end to all language wars and the great unity API to come! References: <6dd92755-c8e9-47ef-aa08-ffffbc3d1893@5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <97a7q6FtqcU1@mid.individual.net> <6a9373cd-4b27-447a-8be4-db74effde338@g16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> <61329ec7-da3e-49fe-bf25-3c179dc8cd2c@j14g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <05c559ee-983d-414b-a499-5e675e6592c7@5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <8430f2a6-bbfb-489c-8f6b-81bd4a12c261@r18g2000vbs.googlegroups.com> <4E137BC5.2080401@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1309930688 news.xs4all.nl 21826 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44981 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8898 On 2011.07.06 12:26 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 16:01:57 -0500, Andrew Berg > declaimed the following in > gmane.comp.python.general: > > > On 2011.07.05 01:14 PM, sal migondis wrote: > > > How could a belief be wrong? > > Beliefs aren't subjective. One's taste in music, for example, is > > largely subjective and can't be right or wrong, but a belief (which has > > to do with facts) certainly can be. > > Pardon???? > > Most "beliefs" that I've encountered do their best to ignore any > facts that contradict the belief. "Facts" imply testable evidence, > hypotheses, eventual theorems... I didn't say people were objective. A belief is quite similar to a statement of fact. Whether the statement is true or false or even objectively reached isn't relevant to the definition.