Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'encoding': 0.05; 'string': 0.09; 'bytes.': 0.09; 'encode': 0.09; 'f.close()': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'objects)': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; "'w')": 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; 'bytes;': 0.16; 'codec': 0.16; 'hides': 0.16; 'open()': 0.16; 'ordinal': 0.16; 'really?': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'skip': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'tim': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'originally': 0.30; '"",': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'chase': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'lists': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'kindly': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'antivirus': 0.68 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Wait... WHAT? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:59:16 +0000 References: <6c76ef4e-8c7c-4199-b30d-c4d55c1061c8@googlegroups.com> <20140212161427.0a9843d5@bigbox.christie.dr> <20140212184432.1df9b491@bigbox.christie.dr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-5-251.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 In-Reply-To: <20140212184432.1df9b491@bigbox.christie.dr> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140212-2, 12/02/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1392253175 news.xs4all.nl 2851 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52631 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:66125 On 13/02/2014 00:44, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2014-02-12 23:36, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> On 12/02/2014 22:14, Tim Chase wrote: >>> >>> To be pedantic, you can only write *bytes* to files, so you need >>> to serialize your lists (or other objects) to strings and then >>> encode those to bytes; or skip the string and encode your >>> list/object directly to bytes. >>> >> >> Really? >> >> >>> f = open('test.txt', 'w') >> >>> f.write('a string') >> 8 >> >>> f.close() >> >>> > > Yep: > >>>> s = "\u3141" # HANGUL LETTER MIEUM >>>> f = open('test.txt', 'w') >>>> f.write("\u3141") > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character '\u3141' in > position 0: ordinal not in range(128) > > Just because the open() call hides the specification of how Python > should do that encoding doesn't prevent the required encoding from > happening. :-) > > -tkc > > Which clearly reinforces the fact that what you originally said is incorrect, I don't have to do anything, Python very kindly does things for me under the covers. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com