Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Falsehoods People Believe about PEP 8 (was: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 07:34:20 +1000 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85potpuwwt.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <1460839470.2322496.580822385.2D74AE6C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de ZG7Cz7bTOOM45CDURfd3yQsoYPi9WsnrHNwWGk49YU2w== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'consume': 0.16; 'feed.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'am,': 0.23; 'code.': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'connected': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'dan': 0.29; 'editors': 0.29; 'pep': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'source': 0.33; 'add': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'on,': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'feed': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'producers': 0.66; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'subject:People': 0.84; 'navigate': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=dlYpbeuzlbOIzEFiDYhqqscN6BeMutoobwQSrTZSQJw=; b=xYl2WtKt62hgm9drRVKI3BmWvRRAZuf98bu2Z4E8fseAYjPIxfe1TCmSSJHxHzSde8 B4RZn1VmwmccbXCb9Oiql1NL4gOh+q9JNGuldyKw0vc8dZmS1C9abNj3HDbSTc2+zmfC RtXINnFzINEXmTA+CLFgdGwD0KoGDMYbEzubInoCisMr5OtdEaZUUaZYcECvJStsvIkH +OjU9Tr/iI/a7jIKg5wQ/wffFlJOIaxpT8GaJF9Ax+hYsXrwofQHB31wROpXCKHAd9yq Qk0jZWFCz7V5i0Cbc1PTrekyO4+HGXAKljJGUwxH9a/ahLG81oJFpx+Zp2fe7zSwuvn6 o8Ew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=dlYpbeuzlbOIzEFiDYhqqscN6BeMutoobwQSrTZSQJw=; b=mqVeIZyzrT/tAy33+ExBCLBnE4Jfm2uN/ip/gnm4LbryabvYsKRz8mz8sfm4P/uLeU tfz+KQnCFGMxMoyWMf9exLIVbLYVl4LZEE8150mkYNHl8MQY1cNGOA/67by+e0pay0p4 M0K6Kq1URgrHaouuaergb0J/17DzTmIf1RYyd3hOUSjIudHn4EIqKcFDOBImSOsgH+gw BQ2zR67XopCNS+CpDpP184RBf3FbjLcWv2lQH8DvrkONoy0rhrX/r6NNp4OlCLE/WZy9 UBz3ZlxeV8DfSWmMKC9syXYlsC98LmVJJqeuEICYa/tBxOYxsw4G2Z1FR1vbTy7jd8Du NJ5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV7qSapHm4dg5D7bX1OOtTPDpN9H2WDAipLE1wkka5MnG5+9WBfudOTX1hH7An+AKDQ10xv6Y2IHHzICg== X-Received: by 10.50.23.80 with SMTP id k16mr12266659igf.94.1460842460739; Sat, 16 Apr 2016 14:34:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85potpuwwt.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <1460839470.2322496.580822385.2D74AE6C@webmail.messagingengine.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107119 On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Dan Sommers wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:44:30 -0400, Random832 wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2016, at 16:21, Ben Finney wrote: >>> * Oh, come on, no-one would use U+000C FORM FEED in source code. >> >> Some text editors have shortcuts to navigate to the previous/next line >> that begins with a form feed. > > Add these to the list of myths: > > * All producers use the same tools to produce code. > * All consumers use the same tools to consume code. > * All entities that produce and consume code use the same tools. > * All entities use the same tools to consume code that they do to produce it. Those are definitely myths, but are they sufficiently connected to PEP 8? ChrisA