Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.072 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'contexts': 0.09; 'style.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'subject:Help': 0.11; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'public,': 0.16; 'stupid,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'feb': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "haven't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'posting': 0.31; '(my': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'worked': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'objects': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'culture': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'major': 0.40; 'corporation': 0.61; 'privacy': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'strictly': 0.61; 'complete': 0.62; 'organization': 0.63; 'between': 0.67; 'mum': 0.84; 'vulnerable': 0.84; 'corporations': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=nFBlQ2YwPU/VPT1llrjczQZwkPhNRH0ZJS+S6NRoe80=; b=tXlXAcRQTz0EjHLq1vVqHunW7pdFHUq8/ascxSylcPGj5wijWVtRB1mu3rPo1lbfk7 LU8NiYMRTyFtvT2m4rOu3Jp80hKpLZSAG6p1UaHCt8dZmmBuANcv9OgWb+D52LWM63BN x/z3/wdGRVIomT6MiEtyklZToTfPO29IV6uXowDUcX+NtLcRIcfXSEFbM0bhWJ1CIrko HCvAZ3gtMYFNnRDfaggmVFjb0PKK/Q23Ed+y4X/h8CjoXs274fbaUx0NMGlDH54TXGNu 7ZmTKvIm92OdAgAVoH9XW9D01dnJJ5njg9h8/3j5hGJ0uF0eR560oMoWPBvzcoUjRdVT 6+yw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.102.39 with SMTP id fl7mr40403951pab.43.1392227817216; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:56:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <22B9F56FF5BA4BC5B8260DE53F4709CC@dev.null> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:56:57 +1100 Subject: Re: Newcomer Help From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1392227821 news.xs4all.nl 2864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43871 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:66065 On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-02-12, Ben Finney wrote: >> >>> In other contexts eg corporates, often the culture is the opposite: >>> top-posting with strictly NO trimming. >> >> I've never found a corporation that objects to the sensible >> conversation-style, minimal-quotes-for-context interleaved posting style. > > I've always worked in corporations where the email "culture" is the > Microsoft-induced "lazy and stupid" style as you describe. Lazy, stupid, and vulnerable to a major privacy breach. I haven't personally experienced this, but my Mum has on occasion: a (lengthy) private conversation between two people in an organization, then they come to a conclusion that should go public, and cc someone outside the organization (my Mum, in this case) on the final email...... complete with the entire history. Yup. ChrisA