Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; ':-)': 0.06; 'ascii': 0.07; 'indicates': 0.09; 'minus': 0.09; 'displayed': 0.10; 'am,': 0.12; '16,': 0.15; 'case.': 0.15; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subtraction': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.21; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'fine,': 0.23; 'do,': 0.25; 'writes:': 0.25; 'guess': 0.26; 'fact': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.29; 'indicated': 0.29; 'pm,': 0.29; 'quoting': 0.30; 'range,': 0.30; 'chris': 0.30; 'joined': 0.32; 'pure': 0.32; 'thu,': 0.32; "i've": 0.32; 'rest': 0.32; 'it.': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.34; 'advocate': 0.34; 'nested': 0.34; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; '(to': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'another': 0.37; 'either': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'uses': 0.38; 'third': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'characters': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'client': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'range': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'reply': 0.64; 'hopefully,': 0.67; 'soon': 0.72; '11:31': 0.84; '12:16': 0.84; 'heh.': 0.84; 'mechanism.': 0.84; 'millennium': 0.84; 'ascii.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=l7pnJg5OUPO0N44ERS6otYGN3ThrMVmr1NQ21wWjXzA=; b=g3S35oYS9oDUdIG0DWAy7mUGaPWCJBl2NIFU3LDtPWIOrTE3oZUouDYWBHIRd0JDcK 3kSKcRQZkBDtOmXRZ0rb5MQlyRHDXh0JNSC8Q0UYduDna42LfcTZX803RrW6auz9UNRT zuMqmWYwAu2cEdzf67XOYNyR6GI8M+KagVWQf0JPhvOvvVJxSPkzeW77/c6F15Nbj6j7 SVQDudjLQjtGRSHGQXSL6BKTKxD72PiOKIRADLCzdCmKwav8uVlf89GLdctqz9c3oqL9 bOYFDHCfj8sxBXbcH0+zCbBsHBzpZ/qDlXh+knmr1/rz8/d37BBZOqaQeKgbvAbY3q7j tNPg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87fwdaovgz.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <4f612b19$0$1379$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <8e72d74f-c844-4de3-8a37-f6b1fdc2291f@y27g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> <50e9ceec-40f1-4ead-b2b6-87328b30d084@ow8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <4f61c828$0$1390$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61d221$0$1375$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <4f61d9a2$0$1377$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> <87k42moxkq.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87fwdaovgz.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:33:09 +1100 Subject: Re: Python is readable From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1331818392 news.xs4all.nl 6958 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60796 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:21667 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> > Another good reason to advocate for proper typography. "John 14:5-7" >> > indicates a range (because it uses U+2013 EN DASH), whereas "7-5" >> > indicates subtraction (because it uses U+2212 MINUS SIGN). A hyphen >> > ('-' U+002D) is inappropriate in either case. >> >> Heh. Yes, but when you're seeking the size of a range, you use >> subtraction. > > Not the size of an *inclusive* range, such as a range indicated by use > of an en dash :-) Yes you do, you just have to add one to it. You still use subtraction. :) >> The fact that the en dash and minus sign are both often represented in >> ASCII with a hyphen is pure coincidence. > > Hopefully, the fact that your quoting of my text munged the characters > down to ASCII is also pure coincidence, and is soon to be corrected at > your end? Or has your client program not joined the rest of us in the > third millennium with Unicode? It's gmail, and I don't know why it folded everything down. I've told it to cast everything to text (to avoid the stupid look you sometimes get with nested replies to HTML-formatted emails), and I guess it decided to go ASCII. Your mail displayed just fine, it was something in the reply mechanism. ChrisA