Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '(even': 0.05; 'executable': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.07; '(without': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'writable': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'jan': 0.11; 'systems.': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.15; 'bug,': 0.16; 'entries.': 0.16; 'hides': 0.16; 'properties,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:need': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'tracker': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'users,': 0.22; 'file.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'select': 0.23; 'bit': 0.23; 'seems': 0.23; 'attached.': 0.23; 'needed.': 0.23; 'somewhere': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'url:bugs': 0.24; 'module': 0.25; 'install': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'entries': 0.27; 'specify': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'admin': 0.29; 'random': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'certainly': 0.30; '--------': 0.32; 'run': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; 'directory,': 0.33; 'idle': 0.33; 'skip:/ 20': 0.33; 'add': 0.34; 'info': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'could': 0.35; 'path': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'delete': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'suitable': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'pin': 0.66; 'practice.': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'click': 0.76; 'again?': 0.84; 'taskbar': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: teacher need help! Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:41:06 -0400 References: <5623397C.40205@timgolden.me.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-59-124-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445402505 news.xs4all.nl 23835 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48621 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97852 On 10/19/2015 4:23 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/18/2015 9:32 PM, Storey, Geneva wrote: > >> Same issue! See attached. > -------- > >>> Can I suggest you find the turtle.py module in c:\windows\system32, >>> move it >>> to somewhere more suitable and try the code again? > > This seems strange. C:/Windows/System32 should only be writable by > admin users, and even they should have no reason to put random files > there. It would certainly be bad practice. There could be a screw-up > with some systems. But we need much more info to say much. See https://bugs.python.org/issue25450 The 3.5 Python and IDLE ICONS do not specify a start directory, so python start in c:\windows\system32 (even for a 64 bit install -- whether this is correct or a bug, I do not know). The solution is to add one. On Win 7, Start Menu, Python 3.5, right click, Properties, Shortcut, Start In: add the path to the executable (without python(w).exe at the end), which is in the Target line. BE CAREFUL TO NOT INADVERTENTLY EDIT/DELETE THE TARGET. For Win 10, hides the property dialogs: no Start Menu, only a deformed 'All apps' list with entries that are NOT icons. Find Python35, Python/IDLE. Either click to run or right click, Pin to Taskbar. Either way, right click on the taskbar icon, right click again, select Properties, continue as above. Fix two for a possible problem. Go to /.idlerc/recent-files.lst. Edit and delete any bad entries. I cannot tell from the report here or tracker if this is needed. At worst, delete the file. -- Terry Jan Reedy