Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.85.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'closed.': 0.09; 'wed,': 0.12; 'am,': 0.13; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.13; 'received :mail-iw0-f174.google.com': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'rantingrick': 0.16; 'reclaim': 0.16; 'windows?': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.17; 'memory': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'handles': 0.25; 'windows': 0.26; 'objects': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'correct': 0.29; 'terminate': 0.30; 'closing': 0.33; 'me?': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'but': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'might': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'subject:!': 0.67 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LRgozm9xxjevGQgDIAHHNWRazAg4aFfuHoslDuT04Dc=; b=WuX31Li/F6RUMS7BamVrvqumEKM7naKXqcO3kXuPNqeqyUCes0l2Q/RVWqlKsIWMH5 AoTM/tuF+c6FmdmWEVgUyMgGwxd4g0UweR9sp+P9CTVAmneREj3iDnmPh1HubSq3zPGw sZOlggux7r0ZoMS+sUdKoyA+plOmlodYhiioA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8e2cfeb0-ddbd-4cb5-ac88-91cc53394ac6@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> References: <97dc7iF9eiU1@mid.individual.net> <78624344-9696-42c9-9ed8-9454c55c1d9f@g12g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <97ga0jFq2lU1@mid.individual.net> <4e131ef7$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4e133509$0$12858$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <999dd05c-cae5-4c86-8ee7-6e1d6116d2ed@gh5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <8e2cfeb0-ddbd-4cb5-ac88-91cc53394ac6@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 09:54:09 +1000 Subject: Re: Implicit initialization is EVIL! From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1309910052 news.xs4all.nl 21846 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40721 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:8878 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, rantingrick wrote: >> > Then that is NOT closing windows that is only ICONIFIYING/HIDING them. >> > Let's use the correct lingo people! >> >> Actually, it IS closing those windows. Why wouldn't it be? >> [...] >> The memory used by that window can be reclaimed. Handles to its >> objects are no longer valid. The window really is closed. The >> application might not have terminated, but that window has not been >> minimized - the *window* is closed. > > And you need the OS to that for you!?!? Are you joking? > To do what for me? Close windows? Reclaim memory? Terminate applications? I don't understand your bogglement. ChrisA