Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'subject:test': 0.07; 'functioning': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'systems.': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; 'argument': 0.15; "(it's": 0.16; 'cares': 0.16; 'fixes.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:Problem': 0.16; 'subject:case': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'versions': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; '3.x': 0.22; 'code.': 0.23; '(or': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'mostly': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'volunteers': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'programmers': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.32; 'core': 0.32; 'common': 0.33; 'is?': 0.33; 'running': 0.34; 'level': 0.35; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'version': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'personally': 0.61; 'show': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'providing': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'forward': 0.66; 'subject:. ': 0.67; 'customers': 0.70; 'received:12': 0.81 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Emile van Sebille Subject: Re: Noob in Python. Problem with fairly simple test case Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 16:15:12 -0700 References: <0165e508-b3b4-4a95-b1bb-e115893056f8@googlegroups.com> <79mdneVqW9UGgzrInZ2dnUU7-cOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <049ae0f4-96d1-4155-8618-32c8931febb0@googlegroups.com> <85d372eb-f39d-459d-be71-50ed7c9b966c@googlegroups.com> <55a86c1b$0$1657$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <151e3d73-7284-40eb-b8b0-b2b28fc28dc1@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: www.westernstatesglass.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437174927 news.xs4all.nl 2926 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48483 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94040 On 7/17/2015 3:45 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > Now my question for you or anyone else: If the vast majority of Python > programmers are focused on 2.7, I consider myself in this group. > why are volunteers to help fix 2.7 bugs so scarce? perhaps the bugs that are show stoppers are providing the impetus to move forward to 3.x rather than fix? This may be an argument to stop back-porting fixes. (security bugs being the exception) > Does they all consider it perfect (or sufficient) as is? I have a number of one-off projects in place and running without issues on python versions all the way back to probably 1.52 (it's turtles all the way down) In all cases, the python version is perfect (or sufficient) as it sits. I do continue to support the applications and find myself writing mostly in some common core level of 2.x. > Should the core developers who do not personally use 2.7 stop > backporting, because no one cares if they do? That'd work for me. I'm not looking to upgrade the python versions of functioning productive code. Of course, neither are my customers looking to pay for me to f*ck^h^h^h^hupgrade up their non-buggy systems. Emile