Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'think,': 0.07; 'latter': 0.09; 'subject:question': 0.10; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; '07:50,': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'written,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'up.': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'ordered': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'form,': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'read': 0.60; 'experts': 0.60; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'name': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'qualified': 0.72 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:44:19 +1000 From: Cameron Simpson To: Chris Angelico Subject: Re: Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) References: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366080290 news.xs4all.nl 2563 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59764 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43657 On 15Apr2013 07:50, Chris Angelico wrote: | Quirky question time! | | When you read out a qualified name, eg collections.OrderedDict, do you | read the qualifier ("collections dot ordered dict"), or do you elide | it ("ordered dict")? I ask because it makes a difference to talking | about just one of them: | | ... or possibly a collections.OrderedDict... | ... or possibly an collections.OrderedDict... | | Written, the latter looks completely wrong; but if the name is read in | its short form, with the "collections" part being implicit, then "an" | is clearly correct! What do you think, experts and others? I do the former. -- Cameron Simpson Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.